Dracthyr will have the option to fight solely in Visage form.
If they made the option to be an Orc visage. Then you would literally be able to be say an Orc Druid (if they got them) with a glide racial.
Not to mention you have the crowd of ppl who refuse to let Void Elves and Blood Elves share hairs and what not, because it “takes away from Blood Elf identity”. Allowing Dracthyr to be other race visages would literally be doing that same thing but at 100% because the Dracthyr would be using every hair and option of the base race.
They’re literally Draconic Elves.
Are the Zandalari just Night Elves? Because they use the Night Elf models.
The Vulpera, are they just Goblins?
No, oh that’s right they aren’t. Using the same base model is nothing new for races anymore.
This is actually false. They are locked to it in the Lore. Wrathion, Ebyssian, Cindrethresh, and Azurethel all say this.
All of the main Dragons were visaged into Humans or High Elves for the MOST part, for pretty much all of their lore once they became the traditional Dragons we have now.
Probably something to do with knowing about future races, I’m not sure.
But literally we even see the Aspects all having thier Elf or Human visages in scenes that predate the Dracthyr even.
So it Neltharion modeled them somewhat after the visages they currently have.
All I know is what the current lore with DF has said about them specifically.
True, which to be CLEAR
I wouldn’t be opposed to Visages of all of them.
Like if I was stuck in a model I didn’t like. I would never use my Visage for instance on a Dracthyr.
I’m just stating that Blizz made lore for them to lock them into it.
They also made it clear that the Dragony Elves are something unique to them, and currently not found elsewhere on Azeroth, due to how they were made.
Visage forms are literally a self reflection of your soul.
Which is why Chromie is a female gnome. They’ve gone over this before.
It’s also implied in the text when players get their visage.
So when the NPCs talk about it being hard baked into Dracthyr when they summon forth thier visage. I’m inclined to believe them.
Not all races will be all classes. At least 2 of the classes will stay more locked.
I literally told you why:
Some would be, any thread that asks for more High Elf things for Void Elves is proof of this.
My dude, they are a different thing then regular elves/humans. Do Elves and Humans have horns and scales like that? Show it to me to prove your point, or stop pretending.
No they literally can not be currently. The in-game lore text litterally says what you’re saying is a head cannon.
I’m pretty sure when it comes to using magic to reflects what your soul is, to create a visage. The NPCs who of that race, would know. Along with the other Dragons, who are shocked that their visages are never before seen race.
But you literally said and they said they’ve never seen it before so this is unknown territory. They know the 101 of how the magic works. But Dracthyr are an unknown.
The devs never said at least two will be locked as far i remember, so will go with then saying all classes to all races
You are not making sense my dude. The case you are speaking is because you want to give the customization of one race, from one faction to another race, OF THE OPPOSITE FACTION.
We are talking about a dracthyr OF THE HORDE, picking up a race OF THE HORDE, to use as visage. Or a dracthyr OF THE ALLIANCE, picking up a DRAENEI, and use their customizations.
Completely different cases.
So Demon hunters are not blood elves and night elves because they have different customizations?
Is a night elf not a night elf because he have horns?
Ok, where is that text? would love for a proof on that
That isn’t how visages work, visages are literally appearance purposes only. The option to choose WHAT RACE we’d like to be appear as when we assume the visage form is what we want, I’d LIKE my dracthyr to look like a human male not a blood elf male.
Edit: Others would probably want to look like a DWARF or a GNOME in appearance when they assume their visage. There is zero gameplay changes happening, just cosmetic.
The Draconic Elves are a never before seen species/race. Correct.
But they also say ALL Dracthyr are locked into being this race, most likely as a result of thier creation/origin.
False, they said Evokers will NEVER open up, and that Demon Hunters most likely will not open up either, ergo 2 classes will remain more locked.
No, they are EXACTLY the same.
High Elf NPCs exist in the Alliance, and have all of the Blood Elf customizations. They are an Alliance Race, with those options.
The Argument people make, is that seeing Non-Blood Elves, with those options, will take away from the “Blood Elf Identity”.
Which is the entire point, try not to be so dense.
Demon Hunters are actually classified as Demons, because they have mutated into Demonic beings from thier exposure to the Fel, in terms of the lore.
But also, Demon Hunters do no have Dragon Horns, The Dragon Scales, or the Draconic Ears. Which are distinct from Elf and Human ears.
Prove otherwise, and you might have a point.
It’s literally when you make an Evoker, and get to SW/Orgrimmar. Wrathion and Ebyssian touch on it.
You get it again when you visit Cindrethresh and Azurethel.
Which I’ve already told you.
I don’t think you’re understanding.
Dracthyr will retain thier RACIALS and their Class pool, ie: Glide.
Dracthyr have been 100% confirmed to play WoW FULLY as thier visage in non-Evoker Classes.
This means that a Dracthyr Druid, could choose to look like, and effectively play as an Orc Druid, who has say a glide.
So you quoting me saying that, and acting like I don’t know how a Visage works, is insane.
But I DIGRESS
I’ve already said it could be a cool gameplay choice. But it’s ludicrous to act like they’ve NOT made a lore barrier to it, when they have. It’s also insane to ignore the complete backlash that a chunk of the community who is worried about Racial Identity in customizations and what not will have.
Yes but it is purely cosmetic and I highly doubt anyone will actually care. How ever we will never see dracthyr take on the role of a druid. What we have seen and what makes actual sense is them being spell casters and warriors. Which they are getting warrior and mage classes.
Assuming they’re getting druid as a class is wrong.
Whcih will not be necessary if we have mroe visage forms, so i wasn’t counting then.
Pretty sure they said it would need more work in lore like druids, but eventually would be possible.
No, they aren’t, no one is aksing for a horde dracthyr to be a draenei, a gnome or a night elf, so tis not the same.
don’t care, doesn’t matter, high elves are only playable on horde, thus their options should not be given to void elves.
You argument is obnoxious and you are being the dense one by making a false comparison.
They are classified as blood elves and night elves.
Im asking for you to prove your point, because i already did those quests and i enver read anything about they not being able or being incapable of assuming other forms.
There is no dracthyr druid, only warriors and mages.
and again, what is the problem with that? Elves can do that but orcs not?
Except Ion stated that they’re getting warrior and mage in TWW. Where do you assume and think that they’ll get druid? Also kinda ironic considering you’re a zandalari troll whom isn’t any different from regular trolls. So why Zandalari trolls instead of regular trolls? Probably because they can stand up right and not be a hunched monster.
If you’re allowed to choose between two different trolls, why can’t dracthyr choose what they want to appear as in their visage form? You just hate the idea that one race will get more options in their second form which is LITERALLY designed to be PURELY cosmetic for the race and is the ONLY way to show off transmog. Armor looks and feels different between the playable races.
Edit: Oh and druids have had form cosmetics for a LONG LONG time. Between actual form changes between the races that make the forms unique to the very things that change them cosmetically. I.E being a literal fire cat or assuming your NORMAL body in moonkin form to being a stag of varying models for travel form.
There is NO gameplay benefits to allowing players to choose their visage form, You don’t get to dictate what people want to be when they assume their visage form.
You’re looking at this entire thread as a “they want evokers to be everything” blah blah, when the entire thread is about making visage forms aka a COSMETIC form a FORM designed to show off our weapon and armor transmogs which are SEVERELY limited in their draconic form.
All we want is to look like any race of our chosen faction when we take on our COSMETIC form.
