Season starts.
Week1 - Fury warriors are TOP TIER, everyone wants them in their groups, youre the hero, you pump massive damage
Week 2 - Fury is over performing above everyone else, nerf
Week 3 - Fury is still over performing! nerf it.
Week 4 - (everyone has 4pc and is mostly full BiS) Damn, Fury is 500k DPS behind everyone overall… Fury cant even do 1m DPS singel target on a boss… OUCH
Week 5 - Fury is gone. If you want to get accepted into keys, you have to tank.
Warr DPS is back down to garbage and no one wants them. because all we had to offer was high DPS and no utility to begin with.
GG Blizzard.
As a 16 year bwarr main, nothing less is expected of you.
Love the warr dev team with my whole heart </3
2 stuns, most comparable classes have some sort of AOE and targeted stop
1 fear, longer cooldown and limited targets makes this pretty mediocre
+1 if you want to include spell reflect
In this you’re right we are above average, but not so substantially that we stand out for it. Nobody is ever saying “oh let’s bring a warrior for more enemy control.”
Only one ranged class benefits from this. Also in 1/6 groups this buff will be redundant.
Does not hold a candle to battle res or heroism, which is what you’re probably giving up to bring a warrior.
No dispels. Don’t you dare include that trash bitter immunity.
Speaking of immunities, yeah don’t have that either. Little or no ability to clear out/ignore problematic ground effects.
The fact is, this class is built around the idea of slamming brute. No magic, minimal support, just muscles. We are being out bruted and out slammed, and the one place we were keeping up well enough to validate participation is being neutered tomorrow.
I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, warrior itself needs to be reworked. It’s an outdated class with outdated design. Look at the utility of warrior and compare it to any other class in the game. Especially any of the several that have been reworked/added relatively recently. Hell, the core of fury hasn’t changed since legion when the whole raging blow builder, rampage spender set-up was added. Prot hasn’t really changed since then, either.
Arms has changed more than the others, but they keep just tacking random ideas onto it. It was a weird buff maintenance spec in legion, then a bleed spec in bfa, then an afk until execute spec in SL…then in DF they made you pick between 2 target, single target, or aoe with almost no in between…and then for keys it was a bleed spec, again, because of target caps. They seem to have forgotten it exists in TWW. It’s a lot like survival hunter, to me. They changed it just to change it, but still don’t know what they actually want it to be.
I ramble because I should really just go to bed, but my point is there’s no fixing this car because the frame is old and rotted. For whatever reason, every other class has gotten priority over the years. Warrior is stuck in a time when all a dps needed to do was dps and not die, but these days you have to bring more. I wrote out a huge list of every warrior utility and how other meta melee dps bring a superior version, but it really was too long and no one gives a damn, anyway, just like the wow devs.
I disagree with the full rework. Mechanically things feel fine. My biggest complaint there is roar and avatar can be talented to desync. It is the output numbers that are totally buggered and being made worse. If we were doing damage that adequately compensated for no battle res or heroism, and total reliance on others for dispels; you know, the reason to bring a DPS warrior since day 1 vanilla? This would be a non issue.
From Blizzard’s own stated idea of warriors:
“Weapon mastery is a staple of warrior training, and they are capable of delivering high damage with enormous two-handed weapons or by wielding two weapons.”
That “high” damage part is just false advertising at this point. The idea of a DPS warrior is to be that crashin’ and thrashin’ front line beast. The fact we aren’t really doing that, and not only is no effort being made to rectify this, but the exact opposite, is the core of the issue.
My (i think) easy solution to warrior not having enough utility. Give warriors Lust.
Blood Lust Shout. BOOM, theres the lacking utility we needed.
On a seperate subject, warrior DPS is supposed to be high, but they nerf us down to nothing as soon as we over perform.
Have you seen a frost DK lately?
they just buffed them MORE.
I cant keep up with a good frost DK in a key, thats for damn sure. at least not since the nerfs
Cried a little IRL. </3