What contradictions are there in the Bible? There are books and websites available that list “all the errors in the Bible.” Most people simply get their ammunition from these places; they do not find supposed errors on their own. There are also books and websites available that refute every one of these supposed errors. The saddest thing is that most people who attack the Bible are not truly interested in an answer. Many “Bible attackers” are even aware of these answers, but they continue to use the same old shallow attacks again and again.
Then what “contradictions” were you referring to when you keep using that word?
So basically me questioning your rejection of a few- not all of, a few - of Christianity’s values means I expect you to be a mindless drone 100% on my side? I don’t think people having different opinions is attacking me. I think people calling me a misogynist - as Renasutus has repeatedly - or implying I’m a snowflake or calling me names in a roundabout passive aggressive way is attacking me.
I don’t imply these sort of things. I accuse when there’s proof. When did I accuse you? You want to disagree with or criticize me? Fine. That doesn’t make you any less Christian. Can you please explain why you haven’t also said anything to the other people who’ve openly mocked Christian teachings on this thread such as Renastus and Micah?
Considering that you keep saying, “Why oh why are you against me on this. You should be on my side fellow Christian”. Yes, yes I do.
Your actions say otherwise.
Questioning my faith because I don’t believe in certain things basically implies that you believe I am not a “true Christian”. Continuously asking me why I am pro choice and not pro-birth like you implies that I am not a “true Christian”. Saying that I am ignoring the other pro choice individuals in this thread and not defending your “honor” as a “true Christian” is basically implying that I am not a “true Christian”.
There are quite a few in relation to number of soldiers in certain battles etc. Basically making the argument that the Bible is not created by God but that the Bible was written by different authors. If God did write the bible, then surely there would be no inconsistencies and contradictions.
I highly doubt that they can refute every single one. Considering that some of them are hard to explain away. I mean it is against Gods law to kill fellow humans, but then he is fine when his “chosen people” kill fellow humans simply because he said it was okay to do so?
Me thinking you will share my side on a few issues is not expecting you to be a mindless drone 100% on my side, and you know it.
What actions? Stating my opposing viewpoint? Arguing against the viewpoint I disagree with? Standing up for myself when mocked?
Your implications are wrong. If I thought you weren’t a true Christian, I would say so directly. Also, why do you keep cherry-picking and quote-mining my comments instead of responding to everything I ask?
Go into detail about these supposed contradictions instead of giving vague statements please. We shouldn’t be fighting among ourselves. Seeing you has made me realize I have been quite lacking in love towards those I disagree with, Christian and otherwise in some cases, so thank you for that eye-opening experience.
There’s a difference between killing and murder. There are two different Hebrew words (ratsakh, mut ) and two Greek words (phoneuo, apokteino ) for “murder” and “killing.” One means “to put to death,” and the other means “to murder.” The latter one is the one prohibited by the Ten Commandments, not the former. In fact, ratsakh has a broader definition than the English word “murder.” Ratsakh also covers deaths due to carelessness or neglect but is never used when describing killing during wartime. That is why most modern translations render the sixth commandment “You shall not murder” rather than “You shall not kill.” However, a very large issue can arise depending on which translation one studies. The ever-popular King James Version renders the verse as “Thou shalt not kill,” therefore opening the door to misinterpreting the verse altogether. If the intended meaning of “Thou shalt not kill” was just that—no killing—it would render all of the God-endorsed bloodletting done by the nation of Israel a violation of God’s own commandment (Deuteronomy 20). But God does not break His own commandments, so, clearly, the verse does not call for a complete moratorium on the taking of another human life.
As for those books, whether you doubt them or not, why not read them at least?
I have already gave my position on this issue even before I said I was a Christian and you still believed that I would suddenly swap to your position because we have the same religion?
Yeah you keep saying that you would, but considering your tendency to delete comments, you probably wanted to play it safe and just imply it instead of directly saying it.
You do the same to me. I have even pointed out parts of where you outright ignored initially.
Why? You clearly know that these exist. Go into detail about these “books” etc that explain away these obvious inconsistences.
once again saying that I should be a good little Christian and join the pro-birth club I see.
The problem is though, different people in positions of power throughout history have exploited this. Saying that, “we are killing in Gods name, therefore it is not Murder”. Even though it is clear that they are simply using that as an excuse to enable their crimes. Plus the laws and the consequences are subject to those in power. Expanding on this, the Bible does say to respect the laws of the government, as all governments were placed by God. “Everyone must submit to the governing authorities. For all authority comes from God, and those in positions of authority have being placed there by God” - Romans 13:1. Therefore if a government allows the freedom of choice on issues such as abortion, wouldn’t that be the government enforcing Gods will according to that verse? I know the reverse can be argued as well. It is why I always laugh at the right wing Christians who basically say that “X president I don’t like” was placed there by Satan. Believing that goes against what the Bible says about leaders. That verse also led to many Kings and other Monarchs to say that they and they alone were chosen by God to be the leader (aka divine right to rule). So really, protesting any law that was put in place by any government is protesting a law set by God. And this is an example of what I meant by the Bible contradicts itself. So hypothetically, any law that “goes against” the commandments (of which there are more than 10. Those 10 are just the “main ones”) is God contradicting himself. An example of this would be divorce. Or hell, any system of government that paints the leader of said government as a God like figure (such as a certain cult of personality around a fake tanned individual). That breaks the no false idols commandment. Which is why those that are against those kind of laws would argue that those who implemented them were “placed there by Satan”.
That’s still not asking you to be a 100% mindless drone. By the way, what’s with the question mark?
Believe it or not, I wasn’t making that accusation. Deleting one paragraph of a comment is hardly “a tendency to delete comments”.
Two wrongs don’t make a right.
No, that time I was referring to the mockery and name-calling and how, even with our disagreements we should both be serving Christ. How is this discussion serving Him?
Thank you for explaining what you meant by contradiction. People trying to exploit God’s word - which they shouldn’t - doesn’t make God’s wrong wrong anymore than criminal breaking the law means laws are wrong.
God’s laws come before the government’s laws, so if there’s a conflict between God’s law and the government’s law, God’s law overrides the former. That doesn’t invalidate or contradict Romans 13:1. God gave us all free will, so if heads of state - Christian and non-Christian - use that to go against God’s teachings, that’s their wrongdoing, not God’s or His Word’s.
The position the Scriptures uphold is one of biblical submission, with a Christian being allowed to act in civil disobedience to the government if it commands evil, such that it requires a Christian to act in a manner that is contrary to the clear teachings and requirements of God’s Word.
I’ve never said any politician was planted in their position by Satan, including ones I don’t agree with.
If that’s what you want, Ainhin, I suggest you flag this thread.
Except that the government’s law IS God’s law. As the government is appointed BY God.
And yet you still do it and try to accuse others of doing it.
But what exactly is “evil”? If God appointed the governments, and the governments are doing Gods will, if we feel what they are doing is evil, doesn’t that make God evil as well? Since he was the one who put them there in the first place? And according to Romans 13:1, everything they do is by Gods design? Doesn’t that also go against the idea that we were given free will? I mean the Bible says that God knows exactly how our lives will pan out. If we have free will, how does he know what will happen to us all the time? There mere fact that we can have different interpretations of this one verse kinda signals that it is not absolute in what it says. Adding to this, whenever we change government in a democracy, it is basically God flip flopping on what he wants. As I mentioned earlier, the Bible more or less endorses Slavery. Yet by todays standards, we consider slavery to be evil (unless you live in the US South).
Never said you did. But those in America tend to do so. Even going so far as calling Obama the antichrist and burning effigies of him.
I believe in god, just not the biblical version of him. Always found it weird that…that he creates mankind, knows everything we do before we do it, gives us free will, but than gets angry at us…for doing the very thing he already knows we’re going to do,.
Doesn’t sound like the god I worship. My god loves us, flaws and dumb decisionss and all the baggage that comes with being a human.
God exists; he / she / it / they created everything and did nothing else.
Pray for protection - darkness, pray for God’s good pastime - the moon. There is no other reason for pleading.
Background God. Yes.
Not only that, but it does take away our free will if he knows what we will do before we even do it. So do we even have the freedom of choice to choose our own path or is everything we “choose” already predetermined?
I often ask myself that a lot actually. Like, why bother if our fate is already predetermined the moment we’re born? It’s why I don’t buy it, spirituality/paganism isn’t about lack of faith, it’s more that My god stands with me to guide me and not condemn me….if that makes sense?
Destroying might be a poor choice of words…just that it’s not as simple as certain people think. That certain things don’t add up when you sit down and actually study it
This is actually a good thought relating to the story of this game. Shadowlands has really dived into the ethics of fate and that’s why Sylvanas wants to break the Shadowlands.
Since coming back and paying attention from a less emotional standpoint….Sylvanas does kind of have a point, the shadowlands is a bit twisted and a little reworking on how the Eternal Ones run things might be a good thing.
I don’t agree with her choice to burn the tree or hurting others like she was hurt, but I feel like her anger towards fate dealing her a bad hand is justified.
I always wondered how that version of god be like Yeah….I’mma kill all these people, even though they aren’t aware of me and arent bothering anyone Again, the god I believe in doesn’t do that sort of thing
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