A problem and a solution related to PvP balance

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Good day everyone;

I feel like having strong racials on one faction for pvp is wrong for World of WARcraft and what this game is trying to do.

Not many pvpers are going to want to be Alliance, because 2 of the best classes for PvP wich are Rogues and Warlocks are going to fail to CC the Horde, Orcs having 30% of stun reduction with racial and passive stats making miss 1/3 important CCs to rogues? or half Horde players being Undead meaing fearing them is just a waste of time?

ok we have faction lock, so what? alliance is going to quit playing anyways, and its going to be a horde server, just like in cataclysm it was an alliance expansion, every horde quit playing pvp realms because all pvpers rolled Human because of racial.

its a recurrent problem in WoW and keeps ruining their launches and expansions and games i can’t believe they still falling to it. i get most developers and players of this game play PvE and PvP is just a minigame inside this PvE game… But if you want to honor the name of the game at least wich is World of WARcraft and its essence faction balance in PvP must happen or we are doomed like always repeating the same mistake.

CC is the most important part of the game in PvP so i propose 2 steps to fix this problem and make Alliance appealing to PvP players so Alliance could get some troops to fight the War between factions and rescue the Fresh Servers before they fall.

1.- Nerf Undead racial Will of the Forsaken and make it share 30 Secs with PvP trinket to get out of fears. this way the Fear diminishing returns is going to recover at full and keep the fight a little more fair.

2- Nerf Orc racial Hardiness and make orcs have 22 or 23% of stun resist as a result of the combination with racial and the 5% of stun resist we get from passive stats instead the 30% they have now.

i read you guys, what do you think?

(dont come with there is SOD for someone that want changes please… SOD died the same way this is going to die, because of pvp Racials, also i dont like SOD i like this game, but it have a problem you dont want to see but keeps killing the game)

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Normally I like changes that make the game better but since I play Undead, I will be joining the #nochanges people on that one.

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im undead too, rogue undead, but i want to keep killing alliance players, that wont be possible without alliance to kill, i love more the PvP than my class to be op, lol, i dont want the game to die, do you?

do you prefer to keep your advantaje even if you dont have enemies to interact with?

living alone with your fear resist, with no one to fear you

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Bro the game will be fine.

Don’t worry.

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Confusing. Meld is by far the strongest racial. Human and dwarf are about the same.

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yea like usual, right? keep repeating the same mistakes and keep recibing the same results, servers dying because unbalance, and world of warcraft turns into world of dungeons and raids

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Blizzard has a game mode where they listen to player feedback and make changes. It’s called SoD and it sucks for many reasons that have nothing to do with PVP racials. In fact I’d say there’s a sizable portion of this game’s population that doesn’t care about PVP at all.

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dwarf racial good? it just removes viper sting and blind pvp wise

night elf racial good? better than 1/3 stuns failed? or getting free from a warlock fear? wierd the way you think, and dont get me wrong i like nelf racial but it just doesnt compete, time will teach you who was right, or you just have to look how cataclysm classic ended up being.

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Before I start: NO CHANGES!

Allies racials are actually better than you think, they’re team play oriented and require some competency to use in certain situations that make them competitive.

Horde racials are great, but they are also less great than you may consider because they’re really only “stronger” in solo play.

Someone is unavoidably going to bring up will of the forsake and UD rogues fully failing to understand this is basically the Rogue pvp class trinket on a shorter CD.

Someone else will bring up hardiness the legit most trash racial in wow without exception because its RNG and never works when you want it.

If I were in charge and could change the racials id just delete hardiness and replace it with +5 skinning, additionally id delete bloodfury and replace it with +5 swords.

Somewhere somehow some dingus would cry about that even tho its a buff.

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do you even play the fresh pvp classic realm? i bet you dont, then why waste your time here? this is not for you

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If you’re referring to me, yes I have a level 25 orc shaman that I’m slowly leveling up. No I don’t want to play a game where Blizzard reads the forums and makes changes. I want to play the game they made 20 years ago when they still had people at the company that knew anything about game design.

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Starting next week actually, I dislike competing with idiots and I know in a week the starter zones will be empty and ill be able to pass all the idiot tourists who think their addon is the optimal path beating 90% of them to 60.

I mostly just WSG on era now days, I multi class and use to exclusively main horde for basically 17 years, now rerolled allies and I gotta tell ya its way better in WSG, pala is freaking insane op, and I give even more game breaking power to my Gnome, and dwarf warriors / mages and locks.

Now I know someone will wonder why hoomy pala over dwarf, well thats simple because pala is already immune to blind in team play making perception kinda ridiculous in the needed situations.

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Dont make me tap the sign:

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what about cataclysm? do alliance suck in cataclysm? haha

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Servers have never died because of racials.

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have you visited a cataclysm pvp realm? i guess not

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No, allies are OP in cata because nelf has an extra vanish on rogue, has vanish on druid and when PvE trinkets are game breaking such as Cata and WoD; EMH breaks pvp.

EMH wasnt a problem in MOP because PvE trinkets weren’t doing insane effect in PvP.

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People quit because Cata is boring.

Also, are you ignoring vanilla, TBC, and wrath?

Like, “we better protect the game in vanilla because in Cata people will quit!”

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LOL TOO LATE!

Too soon? Kek,

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orcs resist 1/3 of stuns, the most important part of pvp
half horde is undead wich can remove fear

warlocks and rogues are the best pvp classes, people that are interesting in killing players with that classes are not going to find appealing to be alliance, like in cataclysm pvpers didnt find appealing to be horde, pvp servers are going to be full horde on classic as they are full alliance on cata, and world of warcraft will lost the meaning when there are no wars.

if you are a pve player this wont concern you, stay in your pve realm