Will there be another Chronicle book?
They’re my favorite and I’d just like to know if they’ve been canceled.
Thank you!
I don’t think so. It seemed like they’d do a volume 4 but the unofficial scheduled time for that has long passed. They seem more focused on the Exploring Azeroth series now along with expansion related books such as Grimoire Of The Shadowlands and The Dragonflight Codex. Most of the authors of the Chronicles series don’t work at Blizzard now so I don’t trust them to make another. I don’t think it’d feel the same.
But has Blizzard said anything official? If thy said “maybe someday, but nothing right now” I’d honestly be really happy!!
They will not make another chronicle because their framing was orriginally a de facto god’s view perspective of the lore… but now it has to be only one perspective of many. So, if they made volume four, they would write it that way.
Most people bought it because it was meant to be de facto.
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It’s unclear and depends on what story elements Blizzard would want discussed in the book.
Like Book 3, covered the events before War3, War3 itself, and everything that followed up to Cataclysm. So a what events Book 4 could potentially cover are up in the air, like it could easily cover Mists to Legion.
Exactly. That would be really nice!! It would sell well. No discussion of BFA or Shadowlands necessary. I just want to hold it and sniff the pages
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I would say Mists to maybe BFA or even shadowlands personally. I mean Vol 3 covered 5-6 games (WC3: RoC & TFT, Vanilla WoW, TBC, Wrath and Cata). So I doubt Mists, WoD and Legion would be at a similar length. Given that certain background stuff for MoP and WoD was already covered in Vol 1 and Vol 2 respectively.
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You get more Chronicle when I get more Legends manga.
Possibly.
A Chronicle Volume 4 and 5 would potentially cover all the events leading up to the Fourth War, and then they’d likely stop there as the Exploring Azeroth books would take over, as each of them starts after the end of the Fourth War.
Nothing has been officially announced however.
While I wouldn’t mind more legends manga, I wish they would have finished the class manga! I am annoyed only Death Knight, Shaman, Mage(weakest of the three in terms of story) got a manga. Oh, and finish that Dragons of Outland to while they are at it!
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Hasn’t a good deal of Chronicle been retconned?
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Bits and pieces only, not the majority of it, not by a long shot.
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More than should be acceptable for a “definitive lore book” Its only canon until it isn’t (also its written by a fault narrator) (also it has actual errors) (also it contradicts itself)
For everyone’s sake they should just retcon the book before they retcon more things to fit their book.
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Most of the Chronicle remains canon, there are only a few retcons honestly and most of them can be forgiven.
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Even better: it’s just straight up lies now!
Dragonflight revealed that the Titans knew about the First Ones and “Zereth Ordus”. It seems like they also - somehow - played up how abjectly evil the Black Empire and the Void was. Chronicle was nothing but in-universe propaganda that we paid real money for.
Thank you, Steve Danuser! Very cool!
By volume? Sure, most of it is still canon.
But if we’re judging by the actual content, I consider fundamentally changing the origins and nature of the cosmos to be pretty substantial. Much of the most important information from Chronicle is now obsolete or, at the very least, put into a much different context: the Titans are just underlings to Super Titans, all that stuff about the Void Lords being incomprehensibly cruel was just a little bit of propaganda, and The Jailer secretly was behind almost every major event in the series.
At least the illustrations were pretty.
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Not really.
We knew about the cosmology of the Warcraft universe from the first chronicle book and the cosmology itself hasn’t changed all that much. The addition of the First Ones being the ‘creators’ of the cosmos doesn’t really change much at all.
The Void Lords are still beings of cruelty and malice, that hasn’t changed.
And the Jailer didn’t actually have as big of an impact that players think he did. That was blown way out of proportion by players who either didn’t know better or wanted to be sensational.
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You don’t think the introduction of a seemingly omnipotent progenitor race that didn’t just create, but designed reality itself - with such foresight and precision that they were able to predict our involvement in the Shadowlands story - changed the cosmology in a significant way?
What about the revelation that the Titan Pantheon, previously a unique fixture of the story and the defining feature of Order, is really just a pantheon? Do you not consider it significant that other cosmic forces have similar “pantheons” all created by the First Ones to enforce a reality of their design? That they are all a part of, and aware of, some grand cosmic machine meticulously created at the dawn of the universe?
The Void Lords are still beings of cruelty and malice, that hasn’t changed.
Some Void Lords are evil, but others are not - which could be said of basically any group. They are no longer the “big bads” of Warcraft in any case. The Void Lords went from being established as the clear end threat in Chronicle to being just another middle man for the First Ones.
And the Jailer didn’t actually have as big of an impact that players think he did. That was blown way out of proportion by players who either didn’t know better or wanted to be sensational.
People did exaggerate his involvement in some cases, but you’re downplaying it here. The Jailer is, directly or indirectly, responsible for many of the most important events in Warcraft’s history.
Zovaal - through his proxies - set Sargeras up to create the Burning Legion. It was the Nathrezim that convinced Sargeras of the nefarious nature of the Void Lords and the absolute necessity of preventing them gaining a physical form. Whether the Nathrezim were intentionally lying about the Void Lords or not, we know now that they were 5th dimensional chess masters working for Zovaal through Denathrius.
And while Arthas wasn’t a pawn of the Jailer as some misinterpreted, the fact remains that his saga is retroactively caused by the Jailer. Zovaal was the one pulling the strings behind the formation of the Scourge, even if Arthas eventually shrugged those strings off.
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They are actually not omnipotent, at least according to Danuser. They did not know “we” would be involved.
I consider omnipotence distinct from omniscience. The First Ones possessed the power to reshape all of reality on a fundamental level. To me, that is all-powerful.
They did not know “we” would be involved.
They didn’t know, but they accurately predicted the involvement of mortals with such specificity that Danuser had trouble explaining it as anything but predetermined destiny.
Speaking of, this is the first time I’ve actually watched that interview. I won’t deny what Danuser says is canon - word of god and all that - but man, those were some terrible, unsatisfying answers. I don’t envy him the position of trying to defend Shadowland’s garbage story, but I wouldn’t have even agreed to do the interview if that was all I had.
They are no more powerful then say, the Xel’naga. Who themselves shapes life/the galaxy in starcraft.
Again, they didn’t “predict” anything no more then Velen who sees dozen/hundreds of possibilities and tries to find a path though them. They way Danuser describes it they had plenty of contingents and it just so happened this contingency involved us.
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