A New Hope

We used weetbix in Australia. Either that or “Never Entertain Sexy Women.”

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Pretty sure the Horde loses all the battle grounds.

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We aren’t talking about the past. We are talking about future developments. If she starts handing out neutral quests you might have a point, but she is currently kill on sight for both factions. Beyond that last we saw she was trying to kill as many horde and alliance as possible.

Posters keeps making comparisons for sylvanas to neutral characters. She isn’t neutral she is currently an enemy of all. It’s not the same thing at all, she isn’t taking a vacation from the horde to sort out some feelings. She is trying to get as many killed as possible to fuel her new death BF.

Saying that people who play horde should be excited they are getting cinematics about her is dumb. She betrayed the horde, and there is no horde pride there.

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I know, just wondering if there was an in-game conclusion.

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I’m not even sure I’d be opposed to having Azshara take over again. Beats being shackled to a faithless Alliance.

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Yeah there’s nothing left for her to sell us out to. Just play to her ego and she’ll be the best ruler the Alliance ever had.

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This exactly. Spent the first 5-10 seconds of the cut scene looking at Tyranda’s kicks. Very funny stuff

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No one outside of this forum has given that kind of blessing to the Burning of Teldrassil or any other simmilar type act committed by the Horde…or the Alliance.

That. “cheering” is all in your mind and the rest of the people in your Self-Pity Legion. Of all the folks who suffered such losses only the Night Elves got a campaign that was essentially a Last Stand at the Alamo. Most of the others are relegated to off screen mentions such as the. slaughter of Quel-thelas. and the bulk of the remaining High Elves at the start of Cataclysm. The Night Elves are in a location that tends to make them a target, first by the Burning Legion because of the 2 Wells of Eternity, and then by the Horde because they have THE significant presence on Kalimdor. (Let’s not however forget Theramore and the brutalities inflicted on many of it’s survivors.)

If there was any "cheering’ done by the staff it was because of the conclusion of a fairly major body of work. Not because they have all pledged themselves to a sacred crusade of punishing every player who dared roll a Night Elf as you and your fellow Legionaires. seem to believe.

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The only thing that crossed my mind is
That it will be awkward for other CC members. Sure the likes of Hamuul or Zen’kiki were not involved directly in the events (they were sitting in silithus all this time) but they are still Horde affilated.

Maybe it’s time to split CC?

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One of my initial hopes for BfA was that it would fracture things like the Cenarion Circle and the Earthen Ring.

Though, as it stands now, the Circle (and a heavy dose of RP and situational dissonance) is the only way for me to get the Ironclad Frostclaw with minimal staining of my conscience. So, there’s that.

I suppose it depends on if the “true throne of power” she ran off to claim is already occupied, or not.

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Besides the writers

They’d cheer because they had finally gotten rid of the Night Elves without giving them any conclusion or closure at all.

And they showed the burning of teldrassil at blizzcon last year for people to cheer, so the ONLY reason why it was burned was to explain Sylvanas becoming more powerful, but there was no closure planned and there will never be closure planned either.

Keep telling yourself that, what other playable race was genocided and their zones taken away and then everyone cheered in the story and was happy about it like you were some kind of villain that deserved to be wiped out?

The Earthen Ring had more involvement in the Burning of the World Tree than the Cenarians as it was Shamans who charged up the projectiles that Sylvannas used.

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The Forsaken lost their Capital City, they lost Brill and most of that zone as well. And they didn’t get any good story out of it either. And AGAIN, they’re saddled with the villain hat of the Horde, and they’ve lost their racial leader. The Night Elves still have their major NPCs with the exception of Sira who was Maiev’s second banana, and Daerlyn who was created to die.

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they lost about 1/4 of a zone, gotcha.

No, only got like 5 cgi cinematics for their leader, got to commit genocide and wipe out an alliance race and get away with it. And now they got another entire expansion for their leader. Where are our 5 cinematics? Or our expansions? Or our leader doing cool things?

The Night Elves didn’t get any closure after Teldrassil either, so what’s your point ? Their revenge patch was to show off how strong Nathanos is and to introduce undead night elves to the Horde.

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Last time I checked Sylvanas is alive and well and got an entire expansion for herself now.

Yea, but that’s about it. That’s all they have left and if SL spoilers are to trust, not for long anymore.

So was King Rastakhan yet Horde players like to cry about it.

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There might not have actually been anything to Rastakhan before BFA, but at least he had a bit of an implied presence stretching back to vanilla, I think? So there was some anticipation to see what he’d really be like, and he ends up having that kind of warm larger-than-life presence that made it easy to get attached to him, even if it was annoyingly obvious Rastakhan was set up to die, and especially following an expansion where troll fans had just had their previously most-notable character red shirted.

Supposedly Bwonsamdi was going to get the axe too, and be made responsible for luring Vol’jin into nominating Sylvanas as warchief, and the only reason why that didn’t happen was because the writing staff got charmed by the voice actor’s performance.

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Not every shaman is a member of ER tho. There is no evidence that ER was involved in it.

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I don’t think Bwonsamdi was set to be the one behind Sylvans, since he was openly despising undead and necromancy back in Wotlk echo isles event.

Rastakhan was a big established character, dating his presence back in Vanilla. It was disappointing to see him getting chopped off, especially when as you said that we just lost Vol’Jin in Legion.

Night elven roster when it comes major lore character is still intact. This is why Rastakhan’s loss has much bigger impact than Delaryn.

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Now you’ve got a point there. We couldn’t count on the Alliance when they we needed them the most. Anduin instead used soilders trying to reclaim a long dead Kingdom. The boy is blonder than Elle Woods.

At least Azshara would have struck back without mercy.

Azshara would have been on the front line evaporating Forsaken for having the audacity to attack her property. Nathanos wouldn’t have worfed her that’s for sure.

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As much as I dislike some of the NE posters on this forum, I do admit that they have one valid complaint. Blizz does need to give the Kaldorei their spine back, I always wondered why we never see the Mountain Giants, Chimaera and such coming to help the Kaldorei.

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