A New Hope

I mean, I would. I’m sure the smell alone would put me off of breakfast at the very least. Not to mention the ichor dripping all over the bed sheets.

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Take what you can get. All the Forsaken get is Voss chatting with Calia about how the Unnelves are bummed.

That felt like a joke. So here we are, standing in the ruin of the Forsaken’s Capitol, in what’s probably their darkest hour, with the two heir apparent undead characters convening.

And they talk about how unnelves are sad.

We got the conclusion to an Alliance subllot as our epilogue. Trust me, this could be worse.

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That is, in fact, exactly what “going neutral” means.

You still got like 5 cinematics of your leader being a mary sue, being awesome and commiting genocide and getting away with it without facing any punishments. Even worse, genocide is now something that’s “not evil” because Sylvanas did it.

Imagine your playable race being treated like the Burning Legion by the writers, and everyone cheering when they get genocided and their lands taken away and the writer treating it like some great heroic act and using it for people to cheer.

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Yeah it was so fun seeing my favorite faction’s leader betray them. Just couldn’t get enough of it.

Apologies I forgot some of y’all are delusional.

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Aside from saying “You are nothing”, Sylvanas didn’t betray the Horde at all.

The forsaken, if they get a new capital city, lost absolutely nothing at all. Can you say the same about Night Elves, those that lost 2 zones permanently and had a genocide against them glorified while also being ignored right after instead of getting 5 CGI cinematics all for themselves?

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The horde absolutely was betrayed by Sylvanas pushing them into a pointless war specifically to get as many of them killed off as possible. She stabbed the entire faction in the back.

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But she didn’t really get Horde killed. She only got the entirety of the Night Elf race killed and still got to keep her “not evil” status even though she commited genocide and sent innocents to hell

This, I am so glad that the Gilneans are closer to the Kaldorei more than the Stormwind Humans. It makes them stand out to me even though Blizzard is just trying to turn them into Stormwind Humans by erasing their identity.

Anyways, I am glad Blizzard added this scene into the game, not sure why they waited so long… as someone said it does sort of feel like them just trying to appease Alliance fans who have always complained that we never get to see our victories in game (which is true).

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Somebody ought to tell the Devs the Nelves are extinct because you can still role one.

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Wait, you mean no one got the memo that Night Elves are still playable? With all these threads being derailed, one would think they weren’t. Those sneaky elves, so many survived they swamped Stormwinds capacity to hold them all.

I mean how dare so many survive? And how dare enough of their military remained intact to beat the snot out of the horde in Darkshore. :gift_heart:

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She murders her own civilains at Arathi, sends Lor’Themar and Thalyrssa into a trap with no forewarn - which costs the lives of many Horde sailors to the dismay of Admiral Dreadsail. There’s also the trying to torture the free will out of a Forsaken thing, which is their society’s highest crime for which the punishment is True Death.

Her minions then cooperate with Zandalari traitors in an attempt to destroy Bwomsamdi which would also kill the Queen of the Zandalari.

Oh. And there’s that thing where she knew every dead Horde soldier would be thrown into the Maw and uh, wanted that.

Seriously what game are you playing?

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ALL of BfA says you’re wrong. Strike 1.

Continue to ignore that Nelves are a thing in game and the narrative. You can’t even be consistent on how much of the population was killed.

Strike 2.

No, the story very clearly shows that what she’s doing is wrong.

Strike 3.

You’ve slid back to #1. Perhaps take a break.

:pancakes:

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I see a bunch of lvl 10 druids. Population growing!

Just did the quest on this toon and my warrior, i blended in so much it took a while to find my character in the scene.

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I wonder what this Nightwreathed egg will hatch into and if that timeline is significant in anyway.

Wish it would be a cool Owl mount. But it will be just a pet.

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Sylvanas definitely got a lot of Horde killed.

In the War of the Thorns more Horde soldiers died than Night Elves before the Horde reached the beach at Darkshore.

At Nazjatar Sylvanas had the Horde’s remaining fleet dropped into a giant pit, wiping them out with the express intention of killing them off.

By the time the Horde rebels and the Alliance made it to Orgrimmar Sylvanas had ground the Horde’s military down to the point where they were running around recruiting civilians to form a militia to go against the armies outside the gates.

And not that it really resulted in anything, but Sylvanas even reveled in the idea that N’Zoth’s forces would kill even more Horde soldiers.

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Which begs the question, did she and the Jailer plan on N’Zoth being freed, and wanted that so he could kill more people because eventually Sylvanas and the Jailer would just ROFLstomp N’Zoth? That is what it seems like…

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Probably. Idea was probably that either N’Zoth would kill a lot of people and the Maw would gain strength to deal with him after, or that Azeroth would get a lot of people killed taking N’Zoth down.

Really one of the few ways that it wouldn’t have benefited Sylvanas and the Jailer is if a small strike team went in and killed N’Zoth with no real involvement from the world’s remaining military forces.

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I missed that. Where is it? (Not saying it isn’t there, but well, I missed it.)