Didn’t they grow ghuun as an experiment and then contain it?
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Implications state it is. You can believe otherwise though, that’s why they leave things dubious.
I still prefer my theory - Xal’atath is Y’shaarj.
Upon being ripped out of Azeroth, she knew her time was almost up, so she put her consciousness into one of her claws and detached it from her body - this ended up becoming the Dagger.
The dagger being a claw of an old god is the running theory in the Shadow Priest lore book in the class hall, and would make sense why it was able to pierce N’zoth’s shell.
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Oh yeah I’ve heard that one before as well actually! I do like that theory.
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I thought G’hunn was sort of a “cutting” from an old god imprisoned elsewhere that was being grown and experimented upon?
(Or was that just a theory just emerged from random brainstorming threads?)
I prefer that xal atath is a different entity because she’s so closely related to Nyarlathotep from lovecraftian mythology, who is interestingly far more powerful than the elder beings the other four old gods are based on.
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G’huun was the Titan’s attempts to create an Old God to learn how they work. It succeeded, but it overwhelmed them, so they sealed it. IIRC
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the titans are huge… and they couldnt beat a little ghuun? lol
Yeah, and it was a failed one or something. It wasn’t a true old God.
If it’s Xal, that’d be interesting. Still like: ‘Did you feel it cease to exist?’ in my headphones when I’m farming old stuff, lol.
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Would
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Imagine if they had made Xal’atath whisper something like “You dare cut down one of my minions?” when G’huun was killed by a Shadow Priest who did the artifact quest.
Make the shadow priests think they were going crazy. Lmao.
nah nah nah thats like comparing a squid to a octopus.
mural is 100% diff in my blind eyes
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The titans could have physically beaten all of the old gods. But as they learned when they kill Y’shaarj, when they die bad stuff happens to the planet. That’s why they opted for sealing them away instead.
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nothing that 25 homeless murder hobos cant complete
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Actually I just reread a bit of lore to double check myself. I think it was more specifically the fact that they ripped Y’shaarj out of the planet that did the damage. Not them simply dying. Although I guess also kind of that, because it led to the creation of the sha. I dunno, in any case. They figured it was safer to bury them away.
And hey in regards to us murder hobos doing the deed, they could easily pull the old, “They never really die,” card on us. After all that’s kind of baked into the lore on which the old gods are based.
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I do hope Xal’atath finds her old body somehow.
It bet it’s way more interesting than any elf.
Well… there is this…
A piece of artwork featured in Chronicle Volume 3 depicts the four known Azerothian Old Gods, in addition to a fifth creature in the top right corner.
Definitely looks like N’zoth.
Not really. Let’s go over a few things.
- We know there are other Old Gods out there. We have known this since Burning Crusade. Where we stop a group of Arakkoa from summoning said Old God
- The WC3 Manual details that the Titans imprisoned five Old Gods. Chronicles vol 1 retcons this to four. However, it never actually says how many landed on Azeroth, just how many the Titans encountered. Note that G’huun was made AFTER the Ordering and is only a baby Old God in comparison. Old God in name only basically.
- The in game lore sections for Xal’atath in the Legion Order Hall says that there is an ‘outlandish’ theory that Xal’atath (the entity) is actually an Old God that was defeated by her kin and imprisoned in the blade.
The more outlandish claim that it is all that remains of a forgotten Old God who was consumed by its kin in the early days of the Black Empire. https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Word_of_the_Conclave
So from those three points, it is possible that this mural does depict an Old God. Maybe even Xal’atath herself.
She refers to N’zoth as the weakest Old God and names off the ones that died, but seems to stop short after mentioning C’thun, Yogg-saron and Y’shaarj.
It is ironic that the weakest of us may be the ultimate victor. C’Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y’Shaarj, and… well. Only one would remain to consume the world, that was always meant to be.
Note that she uses ‘us’, implying that she belongs to that list. Always take a void entity with a grain of salt but that does kinda say that the Outlandish theory from above might actually be true.
Xal’atath also refers to the Void Lords as her masters. Remember, the Void Lords created the Old Gods.
I long for the day our masters can truly pass into this realm. You have only seen fragments, shadows; the faintest of echoes. Ask the Ethereals what one of these manifestations are capable of.
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Ultros finds his way to Azeroth.
No, the four they imprisoned were C’thun, Yogg-saron, Y’shaarj (Heart only for obvious reasons) and N’zoth. G’huun was an experiment gone wrong and was only referred to an Old God in name only basically by Blizzard themselves.
Also, Chronicles only says how many the Titans imprisoned, not how many landed on Azeroth. The WC3 manual does say that they imprisoned 5 old gods, but the annotated ‘Old Gods and the Ordering of Azeroth’ does not point out said contradiction on the relevant passage. Given that the lore surronding Xal’atath in Legion was most likely written alongside Chronicles vol 1, one can conclude that there were 5 Old Gods still, but one of was defeated by their kin before the Titans showed up. Hell dialogue from Xal’atath herself seems to support that.
It is ironic that the weakest of us may be the ultimate victor. C’Thun, Yogg-Saron, Y’Shaarj, and… well. Only one would remain to consume the world, that was always meant to be.
The “weakest of us” comment is referring to N’zoth.
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