Lol u are clueless. What has anything i said have to do with retail?
Ive been playing for 20 years and after MoP went to vanilla pservers for 10 of those.
Pvp players dont raid for the same reasons you do. Its not fun. We tolerate it. Some like both, thats cool. People that play the game for pvp just tolerate the pve.
“Experiences in game” lmao like killing rag for the 30th time? Im so excited that Bob the rogue won that item instead of my rogue. You’re right I love not getting loot. Again, its tolerable and thats it. Cant expect to win everything, it takes time to get your list you want.
I raided back in 05. People cared about end game even then. Everything you just yapped about has no weight in reality or can refer to me outside of the pvp boy stereotype.
Idk anything about current retail and ive played specifically vanilla probably multiple times longer than you have. Pvp players dont care about raiding and do it for the gear then jump out what a shock.
Thats all i was saying. Idc about who gets loot outside of myself & i tolerate the raiding process until i get what i want then bounce till next phase. Im not a retail andy for that im a pvp player. You, again, are clueless and dont know what you’re saying in the slightest, noob.
ANTI-GDKPers are just mad they arent able to join the sub 1 hour nax runs without buying gold cause their logs are beyond terrible. Or they rolled a nelf priest instead of a dwarf lol.
That’s the most wild statement of 2025 by far…
But I’ll give you a chance to explain how you came to this conclusion cuz your entitled to your opinions
people are claiming that Blizzard banned gdkp to stop the RMT behind it. wouldn’t banning gold buying / gold selling is the best and only way to stop RMT?
hating on RMT Is good thing, but hating on gdkp itself as a loot system is the same as hating on LC / HR or what so ever community choose to play with and that’s can be fine since even if you hate such loot systems you can dodge it by playing with other players who aren’t doing that loot system. for exp “being in guild won’t make gdkp effect u at all, if gold selling/buying is instantly banned anyway”
so it is down to 2 main points. 1-you are with gdkp ban because now people will not buy gold? do not make me laugh because blizzard know about all those gold buyers in first couple of weeks and they aren’t banning them, blizzard also are aware of the massive bots and they are not banning them.
2-you are with gdkp ban just because you hate that other players are doint it and you don’t want them to do it? then you need to seek medical help if you dislike what others are doing
I agree with your sentiment, but can we stop repeating the meme that the best gear in retail isn’t infinitely more difficult to get than the best classic gear
Let clear the air while we can… nobody here is claiming that gdkp in itself a bad loot system. I guess it has its perks being only that you get gold at the end of a 2 hour run.
That being said the hard to swallow pill that you need to understand is that regardless of “how good it is” gdkp will always be shadowed with RMT. Period
Just because you didn’t buy gold does not mean other also did not buy gold. Did you see the other 39 people farm gold in person with your own eyes? People value gold over time to the absolute extent they will do anything to not farm for hours on gold. People have money and not a lot of time. So if someone offe them the easy way out. People do it.
If you were really honest with yourself. Do you honestly think that a fresh level 60 (whom got boosted btw) somehow got 10 thousand gold to spend on MC; as a pure buyer, somehow got that gold before getting 60? Really? I got people still fumbling around to get a epic mount let alone have thousands of gold to throw away.
Stop kidding yourself. If gdkp were a legit loot system (which it could be) your payout wouldn’t be in the hundreds or even thousands of gold.
Gdkp also doesn’t remove gold from the system that gold is being bought then traded to character to character thus keeping that gold circulating. In era there not a of gold sinks (gold leaving the system through spending) so people are hoarding thousands and thousands of gold.
Yes banning the gold sellers/bots is a good thing but people will always shortcut their way it’s inevitable.
As long as people play this game like actually humans there will always be people that RMT.
At least the ban on gdkp help stop a continuous cycle of it between each phase to a degree
ofc wow players buy gold and ofc some of the gdkp users buy gold but also people buy gold for
so would you be fine if blizzard removed boe from game or made them BOP, and if blizzard changed the whole loot system to personal loot to fight RMT !!! just because some players buy gold for those things listed above???
this is what blizzard done to the gdkp users, they punished them all just because some players buy gold, and for that i believe that instead of banning gdkp they could work on banning gold buying instantly with IP ban or something to completely put fear into any gold buyer instead of banning gdkp s a whole.
just to clarify, i don’t even care about gdkp existence or it’s ban, but i’ve been saying that since classic launch 2019 there was millions of gold being sold on 3rd party sites, it existed early 2019 before gdkp take over the pugs, and even now when gdkp is banned the numbers of gold buying is still huge even though anniversary community isn’t huge as classic 2019, so i wish blizzard work better in banning gold buying instead of being lazy and banning gdkp while leaving tons of other things that people buy gold for.
also the other flipside of the gold gdkp issues is more than just gold buying. They flipped ALOT of gold during SoM. Half of the inflation was actually from gold made during phase consume use and selling at the right times during SoM. They also bought edgemasters for cheap on SoM and transferred them to ERA where they sold for more.
The other issue was heavy raid attendance always brings more inflation. GDKP gold influx might keep the gold circulating more, but the high cost was always from more warriors/priest/mages soaking up the AH items driving prices up. That and the bots farming, it all adds to a very complex series of conditions.
GDKPs when era had 3-5 raid teams total, had the cheapest prices (MoMs were less than 1k gold during this time, and you could sell farm/mats because the bots didn’t touch era).
Sure… but saying gdkp has nothing to do with the amount of gold being purchase is just false. It’s indirectly part of RMT… to say otherwise is being oblivious and/or delusive
gold are bought for various reasons, therefore either eliminate all those reasons or just monitor gold and instantly ban any gold buying. But to just ban gdkp!! that’s super retarded move.
i find it funny how most anti gdkp hate the gdkp itself not the RMT in this game, because you people are dreaming if you think that banning gdkp stopped rmt or even effected it, those pure buyers who used to buy gold to join gdkp are still buying gold and joining pug raids to buy the items off the player who won, i already seen it last week when someone offered me +1k gold for something i won with roll in mc.
also there are tons of those pure buyers who will talk to top guilds and buy items from them and that’s why there are still thousands of gold are bought on daily bases on the famous 3rd party gold selling sites.
if blizzard wanted to fight RMT they should have tracked the farming locations and banned bots as starter, also they can track those 3rd party gold sites and easily find the gold buyers/sellers by buying few gold to find all their related accounts of gold buyers/sellers and ban them all with IP ban, just banning gdkp is hilarious and prove that blizzard employers are just lazy.
Try to read the whole quote if you’re going to take it out of context…
It’s called a deterrent
Do you know what that means?
But if it meant less killing with a kitchen knife in your example then no it’s not bad
If it meant 100 less out of 110 cuz again it’s called a deterrent… do you call that bad?
I mean it’s it’s pointing out that people will do anything to buy gold. For anything. It’s also pointing out that people don’t give a crap they would make the game a mobile micro transaction game if they could. It’s creating a perspective. That will probably lead to more harsher rules and regulations of the game
It wasn’t supposed to fix the entire system that’s been going on in WOW.
Thinking like that is such shallow minded
im a pvp player. You, again, are clueless and dont know what you’re saying in the slightest, noob.