all of you QQ about the same irrelevant points. it’s more time efficient to lump you up together
Odd that Graff is not replying here to call you out on this. I guess if I were to call it out I would be accused of fabricating/warping/misconstruing.
Yes because of choke points.
And whit the map advantage ally still would lose 300 reinforcements because horde can get both towers and a GY pretty easily. And balidna which you counted grats. The onyl advantage for allaince was no moro honor from lts and you can actually win by defending against the horde zerging in.
Nop.
2.3 onwards hrode only won by pugging.
Literally everyone whom played TBC adn wrath know how much alliance won AV, and the 2.3 changes kept going till legion where horde was blacklisting AV.
Most games were with reinforcements victory because ally was about to strike ibgy then backcap. Why? Because towers mattered a lot and you didnt have to worry about getting honor or PvE boss to win.
truth.
Because with reinforcements it stopped being a primarly PvE battle.
This makes no sense.
You literally didnt even care to back up your claims while failing hardly to “educate”. this actually contradicts what you said beforehand lol.
Cave gives horde several map advantages allowing them to zerg allaince base and only have to deafeat alliance there two times, whereas alliance to get ibgy have to defeat horde over 4 to 5 times till the choke point.
Reinforcements came in so people would focus players and not PvE.Basically allaince disavantage was diminished because they could get points defending whereas now if you stay defense against horde which is allowed to spam in your base means death
cause the alliance get wiped in front of balinda tower where ally have the terrain advantage (GY proximity) + all the npc roaming around.
then they give up before trying to mount of a defense in their city.
but go ahead and keep QQ’ing about IB:GY
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Is IBGY easier to defend than SHGY? Yes or no. Don’t deflect or make excuses. Answer yes or no.
what? the 10 second VS 35 second? that’s what you got from the point?
not the horde wiping the alliance next to balinda tower where the ally have the terrain advantage and NPC roaming around?
is stormpike easier to defend than FY? yes or no.
is the alliance base easier to defend than the horde one? yes or no.
none of those really matter cause the alliance don’t bother defending.
There ar eonly 20 alliance, there is noa dvantage to be had.
Also the GY is double flanked and people ressurcet in a corner.
There is no advantage to the defense there. Meanwhile IBGY horde gets to literally to 4 flank alliance lmao.
Either alliance rush the flag or get flanked to death.
All you have demonstrated is that, boi you thicker than a bowl of oatmeal. If you had any concept of how variables and statistics work you’d realize that you’re just embarrassing yourself. But I’ll sit back and just keep eating my popcorn. :3
not a map issue. That’s a problem created by alliance, affecting alliance.
Also the GY is double flanked and people ressurcet in a corner.
and give you proximity to the fight while the horde rez at the complete opposite side of the field of strife.
There is no advantage to the defense ther
cept, you know, friendly NPC, faster rez location, bunker nearby…
aight. this is getting old.
enjoy losing.
maybe if your hand were on the keyboard instead of in popcorn, you’d win more game?
You dont play or work much if you actually beleive 35 seconds advantage doenst matter. It is actually wierd to say this, ik you want to troll but hey you could do it better… i suppose.
Btw 40vs20 doesnt give alliance any advantage
And a GY that can be 2 flanked doesnt give alliance any advantage either. Especially when you ress way back in the corner lol.
NO
NO
that was easy
I knew it. You can’t answer because you know we are right. Thanks for playing.
If you meant to say FW, the answer is no. SPGY is harder to defend than fwgy.
- Multiple escapes vs one escape,
- One is surrounded by hills only climb able by attackers not defenders
- Once taken the dB bridge becomes a choke for horde to protect from dB while fwgy is always open from the horde cave and from fwk.
As someone who enjoys pvp, I’ll stick to real pvp. You can keep pretending that winning a PvE battleground makes you a god.
and yet we hold them at sp indefinately until we get fed up. WIth all our disadvantages. Imagine if it were an equal map. Allies would tromp horde every match. FOr the record, if it were a blanced map, id vote to give the horde some concessions because i like a good even battle. Thats the difference between horde and allies i guess.
15 years later and some horde players are still acting like humans haven’t played both sides of the video game. You can deny the advantages horde have in AV all you want, all it takes is someone like me or the millions of others to log over to their horde character and say otherwise.
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The seems to be more of an Alliance trait. Horde loves AV because they always win. Alliance players like wsg better because they appreciate a fair game. I would want the same if we stomped horde 100% of the time. There’s no challenge in that, and clearly it isn’t doing horde players and favours since they aren’t learning the value of tactics and terrain.
I don’t think av really needs to be a mirror but it shouldn’t be so obviously one sided.
Thats the pirmarly problem of everything, faction imbalance. Horde gets 3 hours queeu allaince have not people to play and quit.
Only 10 people ress at a time and you still dont have enough people to fight for it. And it is agian easily attackable.
Bunker archers cant reach it to defend, thats IBGY.
Is this for real? someone pass close with the mount or a hunter aggroos them, guards are pretty nuch useless lol and nobody even stated they were useful for horde nor alliance.
Faster to be 2 flanked. The high advantage?
By the time alliance ress horde ressers are zergin in again because you know their gy has a literal facet to offense. It also doesnt change the fact that alliance have to wipe horde over 4 times while beign outnumbered to get in a choke point where they will be 4 flanked whereas horde can freely zerg in to the flag from over 3 locations, from SH bunker, and from right side of balinda and left side of balinda. If you choose the long run horde will just win.
I mean why you enjoy soo much to be wrong? lol.
Get level 60 in classic as alliance and join there, lots of fun to be had.
SPgy literally gives the attacker the advantage to attack from the hills. both int he spawn point and in the choke point.
After getting the flag the bridge becomes a choke point to defend the gy too whereas horde can just backdoor into the allaince base.