A heartfelt message from Xu-Fu’s Pet Guides on the upcoming Midnight changes

Hi everyone,

I don’t usually post publicly, but with the news about the future of Pet Battles in Midnight, I felt I needed to add my voice.

I’m the creator of Xu-Fu’s Pet Guides (wow-petguide .com), a site that has grown over the years into one of the biggest community hubs dedicated entirely to pet battles. It started as a personal project, simply out of love for this unique part of World of Warcraft. Over the span of a decade, it became a place where tens of thousands of players share their passion, strategies, and creativity.

Pet battling isn’t just a side feature for many of us. It’s our main way of engaging with Azeroth. For some, me included, it’s the reason we still log in.

Hearing that this system might be phased out or diminished is honestly heartbreaking. I completely understand that development resources are finite, and priorities shift over time. But the idea that pet battling, this quiet but passionate corner of the game, might fade away feels like losing a big part of what makes WoW special.

I’m adding my voice to the many others who hope Blizzard will reconsider this direction. Even small updates, or maintaining the battle system as it is, would mean the world to those of us who’ve built entire communities, friendships, and creative projects around it. But beyond that, we truly believe that with fresh ideas and some renewed attention, pet battles could once again become a vibrant and engaging part of World of Warcraft for a much larger audience.

Thank you for reading, and for everything pet battles have brought us over the years. I truly hope this isn’t the end of that story.

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I remember when VALOR asked me to lead an Academy event to teach about pet battles and I just went to your site and linked it in and thought I could practically be done.

You’re a legend to all of the pet battle community and I hope to continue to read your guides or even write one with you one day.

Thank you for your support king!

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From what I’ve seen and read, pet battles aren’t being phased out. So far, the only change is how we capture wild pets. This only being the Alpha stage, anything can change.

While I engage in pet battles and enjoy them, I’m mostly a collector of pets. In the resent expansions, pet battles have become boring and repetitive. Using the the same or similar teams to defeat almost of all the the Pet Battle Masters in an expansion gives it that repetitive feeling.

What I’d like to see going forward is a more challenging pet battle system. The most fun I ever had and what really got me hooked on pet battles was The Celestial Tournament.

I’d love to see more content like The Celestial Tournament and / or Pet Battle Dungeons going forward.

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I love flying around Azeroth and doing pet battles. It’s always relaxing for me.

I also enjoy coming up with strategies for Xufu and I really wish that would be possible in Midnight as well! :confused:

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If they are not willing to add wild pets that have abilities then it is a far stretch for us to get Pet battle dungeons. They are saying low engagement is a reason for this change and what you’re saying is exactly what we mean. They need to fix the system, nerf a few pets, something.

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Are they also not even including daily pet battle quests with trainers?

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Has it been confirmed that new wild pets don’t have abilities? The way we capture them may change but the abilities could still be there.

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It has been confirmed that the collection will be around but not the battling aspect for these wild pets

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Very well said, Aranesh. (Love your site, by the way; it has helped me so much!)

I am new to WoW when compared with my friends; I started playing six months before BFA dropped. My friends used pet battling and collecting pets as incentive to start playing, and it’s one of the main reasons I did so. I will be heartbroken if pet battling is sunsetted.

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I will say that as someone who has primarily enjoyed raiding, M+, and Pvp; it hasn’t been until recently that I have gotten into pet battles because of my guild members. PB’s offer me a chance to go back and enjoy old continents without rush and anxiety. Recently our guild has expanded our role in helping others discover this “sleeper” component of the game. I think that rather than shy away–Blizzard should fully lean-in with this content. Millennial gamers are searching for “cozy” over “competitive.” We have real lives, kids, and careers. PB offer us a “cozy” alternative to a quick BG, Delve, or M+ run. They are low pressure. Please don’t make the same mistake as Archaeology. Lean in, improve, and bring life back to a “forgotten corner” of the game. Grass grows where you water. <3

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There are some memories, you can skip that one if you want.

Memories

It’s been so much fun to stick around, even in a non-continuous way I am proud I can call this place home.

Back in 2015 I didn’t even know how much would I eventually grow, alongside my collection. I didn’t feel like leveling much at the time. But as of now, for a couple of years every month or so I have to take up extra pets just to level them up while my alts do the dailies.

I haven’t expected a simple control strat first posted on Warcraft Pets to eventually reach 500k views.

Do you remember that time after WoD we had to mark Teroclaw strats? Daunting at first but the result was so satisfying.

All the Family and Falcosaur adventures expanding the content so quickly we finally got to gather friends around and make new ones!

The first treasure event, I totally didn’t give some coins away pretending I am just bad at defense. Nah.

Constantly resetting PTR and recreating my collection to fight Algalon before… the other means happened :wink:

I’ve been always been curious about some pet battle mechanics but Xu-Fu’s really motivated me to learn more and more. I’ve seen other people express curiosity, such as Gemllum back in the old forums (I should have an archive somewhere), or people in WarcraftPets lost to history – and I knew I shouldn’t let that effort go to waste. I created this little thing a couple of years ago and it feels eerie to know I might never update it again.

But enough of me – there’s something to ponder on as the blue post is finally there.

The “old content” – I despise to put these two words near each other! – may appear to stay as it is, but – in fact – it won’t.
While a part of the charm to me is that it’s one of the most evergreen features of the game, it would be dishonest to say that every piece of content is the same. Ever since the Family achievements have been reiterated upon, the (of course necessary) repeatability of the encounters resulted in no new levelling experience since the Legion’s season 1. While earning Charms and stones helps to alleviate the issue, I think they should’ve always been supplements, not bare necessity.

There’s that old adage about a person and a fish, right?

And indeed, a lot of the fun with making strategies – and most of the time 2 in 3 of any general section whenever applicable – is about finding enough support to carry an innocent bystander, something the devs knew when they had introduced the An Awfully Big Adventure achievement. And it’s not that other ways to spice it up aren’t impossible – the falcosaurs, Shadowbarb, murlocs, what have you – but ultimately, all only last as long as it takes to get to the final piece.

Is it really a surprise that newer zones are considered optional compared to the old ways?
(I will give credit to Dragonflight but unfortunately you don’t get big Darkmoon Faire type arrows pointing at these as you get towards the original questline – and even that is an overstatement.)

I will second DragonsAfterDark, this is counterintuitive and contributes to a what seems to be lower participation in said expansion’s content.

And now for the Midnight itself.

If the Family X model follows the suit and eventually sprawls over more areas, this means we’re facing the available levelling content dwindling further. I also don’t expect the old bags suddenly rewarding an experience boost, so can’t even say this will be compensated in any way.
On the other hand, with no new pets to level, the only people needing these will be the newbies. The veterans will have to be content with speedrunning and Rextroy level shows of insanity while they’re not begging friends to take their abundant gifts.

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To put it in layman’s terms they are. Without us showing our support for it they will not create new content and are change battle pets into vanity pets and this is essentially like what happened to archaeology.

Midnight changes so far:

  • No new wild battlepets - all caught under new system have no abilities.
  • Current added battlepets are previous pet introduced in DF, just modified to to give them a 12.0 release.
  • All new achievements are actually for doing old content. This old content is currently not being updated as they are part of the introduction quest chain so highly doubt they will be updated to have more than 2 pets or even level 25.

You can try to downplay this (which blizz will love) but if we don’t speak up and nothing changes. We won’t be getting changes.
If I had alpha access I would post over there but unfortunately I don’t. I spoke up about Karesh not having any battlepets (despite being so many critters they could have just copy and pasted some moves on) and had my post removed.

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So far no.

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Honestly, I was already feeling lukewarm on Midnight. I’ve bought collectors editions of every release since BC but this one already had me going… eh.

Now I’m honestly unsure if I want to bother at all. I’m one of those players who doesn’t raid, rarely dungeons, and plays this game largely as a solo experience. Pet battles and collecting are a huge part of that.

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I feel ya there. While I do raid, m+ and play the AH, pet battles have kept me subbed and playing the game when I don’t feel like doing the above.
They have eventually taken over as the main reason and now I only do the above when my friends are online :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m lucky. I didn’t preorder right away because I was feeling a bit dishearten about unrelated issues.
There is no way I am purchasing now, and would have been refunding if I had.

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The Irony since there is nothing to do whilst the patch comes in is I have jumped on classic, and what am I doing. New collection, Pet Battles from scratch. Its so much fun and levelling my character too. So a +1 to not only continue it, but to evolve it further.

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It’s pretty sad to see that they argument is “people are not engaging it.” Since they didn’t even made new content for battle pets in a while. The last patch didn’t even had world pets to collect without any warning about it…

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This has really been blown out of proportion. They are simply trying new things with pet battles because the popularity of them has lapsed over the years. If anything, this is an exciting time to be a pet battler.

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Adding my voice to the mix. I enjoy pet battles and pet collecting way more than I probably should, but they’re addictive and cute! And I just got my 1800-pet achievement — though I’m still just #1580 on Xu-Fu’s Top Collector list!

However, I’ll admit that if I didn’t have Rematch, battle scripts, and Xu-Fu at my fingers, I’d walk away from it all in a heartbeat. I’m not memorizing a fuzzillion different spells for different pets.

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I’ve been pet battling from the start.

My opinion will probably not be agreed with with people in this thread or on the forums, but I would have absolutely no problem with a complete deprecation of the entire pet battle system.

Most people who engage in pet battles are like me, people who play the collection game, and we don’t really like pet battling, it’s just find the meta comp and stomp the quests, pressing buttons for 1-2 minutes.

And to be honest, if blizzard made pet battling more challenging and difficult, it would drive even more people away.

If blizzard devs want to completely blow away the pet battle system while giving us alternative ways of collecting that are not as rote and tedious, I’d be all for it. You go devs.

To the op: I love your website, and for your sake, I hope I’m wrong. All of this is just my opinion. The pet battle community is one of the finest in all of online gaming, and I will be sad to see it go.

My opinion is that the gameplay is just not compelling and it’s another chore I do because I’m a collector fiend, so I’m fine with however the devs want to change it either way.

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