Everyone is going to be playing glacialspike, stacking mastery… Literally we already experienced this play style in countless other expansions. We rarely had frostbolt gameplay. s5,6,7,8 were the only seasons we got to experience it, and I was only able to play season 7 in full. It was the most rewarding gameplay experience ever.
I was one of the very few mages who played Frostbolt pvp spec this expansion, now its completely gutted and not even remotely close to worth playing:
All ability damage increased by 15%.
Frostbolt damage reduced by 12%.
Wintertide’s Frostbolt damage reduced to 5/10% (was 7/15%).
Lonely Winter now increases the damage of Frostbolt, Ice Lance, and Flurry by 15% (was 25%).
Deep Shatter now causes Frostbolts to deal 10/25% increased damage to Frozen targets (was 20/40%).
Frozen Touch now grants Fingers of Frost 25% more often (was 20%) and now grants Brain Freeze 15% more often (was 20%).
Frostbolt’s chance to gain Brain Freeze reduced to 25% (was 30%).
It was also based around rune of power, which is completely gone.
Oh yea, and…
Glacial Spike cast time reduced by 0.5 seconds and damage increased by 7%
plus the biggest mastery change I’ve ever seen in my life, buffing everything but frostbolt. Why is our #1 spell the weakest? We are buffing other things without “Frost” in the name. Ice, glacial, blizzard, comet, no buffs to anything with “Frost” in the name. Doesn’t even make sense, why not call it a winter mage… ffs.
We have some other modifiers from frigid empowerment but glacial spike gets that too. Slick ice buff is the only thing, but whats the point, icelance hits harder now anyways.
I do not understand these changes, they are making it so there is 1 meta frost spec for PvP. What happened to letting us have some variability and choose our spec?
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Shadowlands was frostbolt was it not? Especially with necro
Yea I guess. Most people played fire though. People did not start playing necro frostbolt until last couple of seasons.
This game literally had any new pvp content 10 years ago, why people even play it for pvp still. Devs don’t care, why you should.
I play frostbolt build since Shadowlands and im kinda frustrated with these changes
Yea, well glacial just got a whole lot better though, so theres that I guess. Though, now frostbolts damage is literally gutted. We are doing 1/2 as much damage now with frostbolt. I almost feel like its a simple math mistake somewhere. Or they are completely ignoring PvP and trying to balance PvE, so they nerfed what they could, while still having the least impact? Also we would shatter our frostbolts with icenova because of Subzero, with rune - that adds ALOT of extr damage. But now, no rune and no frostbolt damage. It’s completely unviable to even think about specing Frostbolt. At all. Why do they even have the talents for it? lol.
Wait, there’s people defending Frostbolt spam as a PvP strategy?
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I don’t understand how anyone can defend the filler being the main source of damage.
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They stuck in vanilla classic.
On a more serious note I have absolutely no idea either. Wanting to have a more simple rotation is one thing. But wanting to literally ONLY spamming frostbolt and ignoring half of your procs since as it does not benefit you casting anything other than frostbolt is just laughable at best.
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It is not a filler, it is a filler in PvE, not PvP.
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What else are you going to play ? Spam flurry ? lmao? Spam icelance and do no dmg? spam what? comet storm? lol. Okay fool.
Glacial is the only spec viable now. 100% and frostbolt was never meant to be a filler spell, only in PvE.
I was playing glacial since forever since I like bursty damage, joke’s on you.
I’m still waiting for an elemental mage spec where I should use Ice Lance, Fire Blast and Arcane Barrage (with scorch as the filler and frostbolt as the snare) intelligently to maximize damage.
Guess I should just play Wrath again…
Dear,
What did Blizzard do to the mage in PvP?
How are we supposed to defend ourselves now?
It’s impossible to play as a mage in PvP anymore, it’s completely over. I was playing normally yesterday, but today people realized that I can’t defend myself and killed me six times.
How can someone approve something like this without testing it in PvP?
Is it ONLY for MC+?
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Please buff frostbolt…
I am sick of playing glacial and ray. It’s impossible to setup and all you need is 1 interupt, feign death etc and your damage is screwed. Also 10% nerf from subzero on Tuesday? lmao. Frost is literally b tier…We need frostbolt buffs, not subzero nerfs.
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Like if you are going to try to balance PvE and PvP, don’t nerf PvP by nerfing sub zero because its over peforming in pve lmao.
I just feel helpless, there is nothing I can do to help. Frost was just looking good. Like B Tier. Then they shut it down a little bit more. Frost has not been S tier since Mop lmao. Blizzard does not care about PvP at all. I honestly think they do it on purpose, so people reroll and buy boosts. They’ve been doing this since Cata. Must be some investors getting involved to make sure they pump maximum profits.
Blizz, thank you for saving frostbolt spec. You might have actually listened to me.