What about the timing seems off to you, friend? Why would it be better later than now?
The slippery slope is very real, IMO.
Right now, Blizzard’s stated goal in Classic is to recreate an authentic TBC experience, or at least as close to it as possible. Dual spec cannot be implemented without changing that core, fundamental goal. So instead of authentic TBC, it becomes TBC Classic Plus, where any and all “improvements” are suddenly on the table and open for discussion and implementation.
Classic enthusiasts have seen firsthand how Blizzard’s idea of “improvements” can ruin the game. All one has to do is look at retail, a vastly inferior product than TBC, IMO, but a product that Blizzard believes is vastly superior.
I don’t trust Blizzard to create a Classic TBC Plus. I’m not hard line #nochanges, but, IMO, changes should only be implemented when it’s to fix an obvious and glaring problem (e.g. drums meta). Dual spec does not meet that qualification, IMO. The game is near perfectly awesome without it.
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Blizzard, if you’re reading this forum, this is why listening to “No-changers” was always a bad idea. Completely and utterly illogical.
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Thank you for your reply!
I appreciate your comments. To be honest, I can see how some could see dual specs as a fundamental change to the heart of the game, allowing any changes to be “on the table,” so to speak.
I guess I just prefer that changes be allowed to be on the table and we can debate them for their merits. We even have retail as an example of what was bad! I definitely agree that tbc is much better and I don’t want it ruined or turned into retail either.
I see dual specs as a change more similar to fvf battlegrounds. It allows people to play and access more parts of the game more easily. Yes, people on majority factions could just wait an exorbitant amount of time for a bg just as currently those who want to pvp instead of raid or tank instead of dps can pay a large fee and travel time. I think lowering this barrier will entice more players to engage with more content, leading to more fun for everyone.
It doesn’t
However, we can’t all agree on which parts are and which parts aren’t.
Among those who prefer Classic though, I suspect we can all agree that Classic is better, as is.
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LOL who exactly are you offering a “compromise” to?
It is entirely up to blizzard if they add another retail change or not.
every.
single.
one.
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I think the difference is that the long queue times for Horde and the heavily skewed factions were not authentic to original TBC. Like the drums issue, it was a problem that emerged due to modern metas, and many felt that it needed a solution, to preserve authenticity.
Dual spec is not like that. The respec process is functioning exactly as intended, exactly as it did in original TBC. To change it would not be fixing a new, emergent problem. It would be simply because modern gamers are used to the convenience of the feature in later versions of the game. Similarly, modern gamers are also used to being able to legally buy gold, transmog their gear, and queue up for dungeons without having to put forth any effort to communicate with people.
It opens up a can of worms, IMO, and puts all other modern features that modern players might prefer on the table, whereas currently they are not, due to Blizzard’s stated goal of authenticity. And the reason Classic even exists in the first place is because people wanted an alternative version of the game without modern features.
Of course it is!
But obviously I can’t petition blizzard, only you, my fellow classic players. If the community could unite around a compromise then perhaps blizzard would be willing to consider the change.
But what if I don’t care if they add dual spec or not?
Meh, I’ll sign your petition anyway if you kids will finally get off my lawn!
I don’t really care if good things get taken from retail. Your view is entirely black and white which is not how anything in the world works
I prefer classic and I think being able to Q arena and BG’s without the vendor and not getting ported back to where you Q’d* along with dual spec would all actually make BC better without compromising any integrity. You’re right though, we can’t all agree on which parts are bad.
Most of the people against dual spec don’t main healer like me though so they’re by default fine to do everything in the game. It’s actually a huge pain in the butt to go mining and herbing as a healer since almost every enemy unit can bully you.
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That is an interesting distinction. But i feel like there are new, emerging problems in our modern-era tbc. For example, raid logging and a waning player base. I recall all aspects of tbc being more popular then than they are now. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think this exacerbates the tank shortage and the problem with people only logging in to raid, causing them to be bigger issues now than they were then. I think dual specs can help with both problems in a way that doesn’t change gameplay much at all.
Most of the people against dual spec don’t main healer like me though so they’re by default fine to do everything in the game. It’s actually a huge pain in the butt to go mining and herbing as a healer since almost every enemy unit can bully you.
I can see that… but the correct way to deal with that is to just roll a DPS alt for farming, or just spend the 100gold every week. That’s literally one hour of farming now, and less than half an hour of quests once the dailies come out,
not dual spec which upsets the balance of the whole game and would make it unrecognizable to the people who played the original release and upset the game balance in massively negative ways.
Put a 10,000g fee on it and all is well.
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actually now it’s 12,000g.
inflation is rough out there
These zones are designed to be traversed by players leveling in crap green quest reward gear. As a presumably endgame player, your offset dps gear - which you should be building and maintaining - should more than make up the difference of not being a dps spec, when compared to leveling characters in green gear. And your offset gear should only get better the more advanced your character gets.
So I think being “bullied” is an exaggeration. You are not weaker than the level 68 players running around questing in those zones.
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Why gate it behind such an exorbitant fee? I’m sure levelers could use all the help to find a group with.
Well no, I mine and herb almost every night and I’d do BG with the bros multiple nights a week. Paying 50g to respec to mine and herb is never going to be worthwhile when the next day or that evening I’ll need to be resto. So I opt not to respec, I’d prefer not to but paying 100g to respec is like 25 minutes of mining and herbing. I’m not going to spend 25 minutes doing nonfun content to be able to do fun content. That’s a problem for a lot of players.
I’m on a PvP server, I can handle elementals in nagrand just fine thanks lol.
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It doesn’t. I already debunked your prior example of this. It’s funny that you didn’t respond, because you knew I was right: