You have stated that you’ve 11 threads with a focus on Light-related characters or story since you started making threads in March of this year. That means you’ve been creating at least one thread making the same bad arguments an average of every 24 or so days.
You’re actually overdue for a new one.
When Illidan violated Akuma’s bodily autonomy, we got with Akuma and took Illidan down. Then Xe’ra had us get Illidan back, just for her to try and violate his bodily autonomy and get taken down herself. Is there a problem with that?
The devs have already stated that Xe’ra’s goals are bad for Azeroth. They introduced her as a a nauru that does bad things. You got the link. and there’s a version of her leading a genocide right now. I even gave you the link to the interview where they said that.
Illidan meets your criteria for “the Man”. You said so yourself.
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You actually did question the motives of all the people who liked my post. And you were referring to the post that had 12 upvotes, not 5 as you falsely claim.
The only pattern here is that you’re not telling the truth about things you’ve said and done. Or arguing against me for weeks on end about various topics only to admit that I was actually right the whole time.
And you have endorsed Blind obedience. In your last response to me, you tried to argue that Velen had “lost Faith in the Light” and even provided a link to try and prove it, only the link doesn’t say Velen lost faith in the Light. It says that he’s no longer someone who would be blindly faithful- if he had ever been to begin with. Did you think nobody would actually listen to your source?
https://www.wowhead.com/news/lore-reveals-from-the-bellular-chains-of-domination-interview-nerzhuls-story-321100
You’re equating not having blind faith with not having faith at all and framing that as Blizzard being bad writers that make any criticism of the Light as a blanket attack on religion and authority. Why isn’t Velen having faith, but not blind faith enough?
The term righteous anger is “getting angry at the things considered not of God and/or of one’s morality”. It is often used by people to temporarily get people riled up about one thing, only to be overlooked in other instances. Or suppressed when being mad about that thing is no longer convenient. You already acknowledged all the previous times I was using a term correctly, and you incorrectly argued with me about it for days. Why are you doing this again?
And how is “”the why and how of retcons" regarding other elements of the Light not a topic of this thread, when you keep claiming retcons as the reason why/how a Light Crusade expansion would be bad? If you don’t think elements of the Light based on retcons are bad because they’re retcons, then stop making the argument that elements of the Light based in retcons are bad because they’re retcons.
I don’t think the differences in the details between the creation of the Aqir and the creation of Dwarves, Gnomes and Humans disqualify them all from being Void entities. Their creation process was different from that of the Old Gods, and those are Void entities, right? And their creation process was different from that of the Void Lords and those are Void entities, right? The details of the process all differ, but they were all created by the influence of the Void. They’re all Void entities.
I’m being consistent. You are not.
Lilian Voss isn’t leading the Forsaken. It’s Calia that’s actually representing the Forsaken at meetings of faction leaders. I’m struggling to remember if we even seen Lilian Voss doing anything in the game Shadowlands launched.
I say both genocide and cultural genocide. And just so we’re clear, you’re asking me if we see Mag’har getting Lightbound to know they’re actually getting Lightbound- something that you should know the answer to if you’ve actually seen the scenario? Right? Because seeing Mag’har orc Orc models labeled ``Lightbound” and being told they’re being converted is not enough evidence for you to believe something like that is happening. Do I have that right?
If you enjoy Death Knights for their horrific situation and rise above what the Lich King forced on them such as a literal hunger for pain; why can’t you enjoy Turalyon or Yrel being manipulated by Xe’ra into a horrific situation and the idea of them eventually being able to rise above what she’s forced on them? Like her plot to forcefully convert people, commit genocide, and lead a grand crsade of the Light across multiple worlds?
Your in game content and official published material, such as an in-game quote from Scarlet Onslaught founder and leader Brigitte Abbendis renouncing the Scarlet Crusade and “proof” that the Scarlet Crusade was wiped out is countered by the fact that the Scarlet Onslaught dresses as, acts as, and believes as do the rest of the Scarlets (including Crusaders). And there are literally still Scarlets (including Crusaders) walking around in the game.
I’m not twisting your words to make you look close minded. I’m just pointing out that what you’re saying is wrong. And pointing out all the bad arguments and contradictory logic your faulty premise is based on yourself. Because you’re not basing your conclusions in actual facts or lore that don’t actually stand up to any real scrutiny.
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And No, begging your employer for mercy when they haven’t even told you what they’re going to do and then following their instructions is not defying them. Just like if you were to beg someone to have mercy on you and then do exactly as they dictate, it would not be an act of defiance. ““Virtues count for nothing if you stray from the path the Light has chosen for you.” Was Xe’ra speaking in part to Turalyon. Not vice versa.
And the folks at WoWhead would know this if they’d actually read and cited the actual book instead of a quest that doesn’t actually portray the situation, but is merely related to it.
You argue that religiously-motivated villains are overused these days. But the reality is that religious motivated characters or even just religious characters that don’t end up as villains are used even more often.
Take for example, your link…
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SinisterMinister
Itself references a single trope and compares it to two tropes related to heroic portrayals: badass preacher and good shepard. There’s so many versions of good priests, they get divided into their own tropes differentiating action oriented ones from less action oriented ones, which altogether outnumber the bad ones.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GoodShepherd
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BadassPreacher
And that’s not counting the countless portrayals that aren’t heroic/villainous at all, and are just characters who’re guided by their religious values, but it doesn’t make them heroes or villains. You know, just the normal religious people who’re too numerous and mundane to even bother counting.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScaryDogmaticAliens
Similarly, your second example isn’t even about religion specifically at all. It shows that fanatical aliens can be religious, or political, imperialist or something else entirely. It also makes special note under the section of aliens as religious analogue that of all the various kinds, religious fanatic aliens are the kind most likely to end up getting a more positive portrayal by the end of the story.
So yeah, fanatical religious aliens are a thing, but non-religious fanatical aliens are even more of a thing. And religious aliens are more likely than others to get a positive portrayal at some point.