9800x3d and 4090 not enough for playable fps in the new raid?

Maybe the best YOUR money can buy…

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…isn’t this the definition of what a ‘hardware issue’ would look like, though? If game performance drops while hardware remains the same, that sounds like the unchanged hardware is no longer adequate for the same level of performance.

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This is caused by something on your end. Highly likely addon related. Any addons that display 3D models will do this especially in raids. Other culprits are things like Details that parse combat logs.

I have a 9800X3D/5080 (technically slower than yours by a little since the 4090 is a little bit faster) and I do not have this issue. My old system (12900k/3080ti) did not have this issue either. I don’t use DPS meters though.

You wouldn’t believe how many people I’ve seen just check “load outdated addons” when a new patch hits and then act bewildered when the game doesn’t work right.

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I am running 9800x3d and 4090 even at 1440p I struggle in undermine, it is not graphics issue its a connection issue and server load issue. maybe the amount of people in undermine zone effects the raid instance? or just so many in the raid at once.

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It’s not a graphics issue, but it’s probably a UI or addon issue. Yes WOW is hard on the CPU but a 9800X3D should be getting around 90fps even in the most strenuous situations in WOW. Unless there’s something going on with the UI or addons.

WOW 1440p is nothing to a GPU like the 4090 (or 5080). A 3060 is more than enough to max out WOW.

if you turn up everything and play on 4k, I can see it.

I can get fps below 60 by turning everything up. (9070xt.) In Dornogal.

so for a 4090, that would be, 90 fps maybe?

I remember reading about this. I noticed that I my frame rate seemed to drop a bit in this raid compared to others but my raids are done for the week so I don’t have a chance to test this out.

I’m interested to see if that will actually make a difference and if there’s a patch to default to it being disabled or something along those lines.

Im running
Comet Lake i7 10700F CPU
Nvidia RTX 3070Ti
32GB DDR4
2TB NVMe storage
Cable Modem on 1GB plan

Im not having any issues with the game

There’s an absolute ton of things you can tweak in your Windows computer settings (and the NVIDIA control panel) to help reduce stuttering in WoW. I spent weeks looking up every YouTube guide imaginable and there’s so many ways to incrementally increase PC performance through changing your computer settings.

I’m not exaggerating when I say you can expect a 20%-30% increase in performance if you do this. I have a 4080 super and only a 5700x3d and the game is buttery smooth with barely any stuttering except in large group content.

Easiest things first:

  1. Keep your in-game render scale at 100 under the graphics options, and uncheck the max foreground FPS option. Both of those have been buggy lately and contribute to stuttering.

  2. Make sure NVIDIA G-sync is enabled.

  3. In the Battle.net client, go to the settings and disable hardware GPU acceleration.

  4. Right-click the Battle.net icon on your desktop and click properties. Go to the compatibility tab and at the bottom, disable the full screen optimizations. Then click change high DPI settings and override the DPI behavior on the application.

  5. Open your NVIDIA control panel and go to Adjust desktop size and position. Set your scaling mode to aspect ratio and choose the GPU setting on the drop-down bar below it. Make sure to check the box that says Override the scaling mode set by your games.

Those 5 settings are the tip of the iceberg when it comes to reducing stuttering in WoW. There’s at least 10-20 more steps (mostly in Windows settings, like disabling built-in options that severely reduce your computer’s processing speed) to fully optimize your game smoothness.

As an example: some of the steps require you to disable things like Windows frequency bandwidth modulators, etc. I forget the actual names of these settings, but it’s something similar to that. They absolutely work.

If you want to find out what these settings are, there are step-by-step visual tutorials on YouTube where people will walk you through all of the Windows settings you can change.

Just type in “Increase gaming FPS & performance for Windows” on YouTube and watch the most highly rated videos. You can also search for the best NVIDIA control panel options for high FPS (while still having max graphics) either online or on YouTube as well.

Good luck. The whole thing takes less than half an hour, and it’s absolutely worth it.

Like I said, last time this was a big thing it was dps meters calculating causing massive frame drops

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WoW runs pretty smooth on my 3700x/2060 super rig, so I can’t wait to see how it performs when I upgrade to a 5060 ti.

Assuming the 5060 ti is not a complete failure of a card.

Gota get intel and not budget parts

9800x3d is the current top end gaming cpu on the market, intel has been Garbo in the 14th gen

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I just got a 9800X3D and I haven’t been able to upgrade by RTX 2080, but I have no issues. I did however have issues when ray tracing was enabled, but I don’t think you’d deal with the same performance issues that a 2080 would have. Are you using Windows 11? I feel like I’ve been having all sorts of random issues since the update, including being unable to end WoW through task manager when it freezes.

Have you also checked to see if you have two WoW instances running? For some reason, since the W11 update, closing WoW may leave one instance hidden as a background process. I can usually tell by my Discord status showing WoW when I’m not playing or the game being laggy as hell at the character select screen.

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Oh that’s nasty. They need to fix that asap.

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From what i heard , intel works better with nvidia cards so , by your statement this guy should have no problems

If you want to take it to the next level, look into getting a 5700x3d or 5800x3d Ryzen chip to replace the 3700x when you can. I’m only saying this because WoW is far more bottlenecked by CPUs than graphics cards.

X3D chips are specifically made to increase the amount of shader cache processing. It’s the best possible budget CPU for WoW. They’re not as strong as the 9000 series, but I just got a 5700x3d CPU and it’s a massive difference for FPS.

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It’s far more likely that it is an addon issue considering he’s fine until pull

Weakauras and dps meters have been known to tank fps

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Also means he wouldn’t need to change his board. 7 or 9 would need a new board, and likely new ram

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That’s right. I believe both the 3000 and 5000 series use the AMD4. I’ll probably change my motherboard and computer case eventually to use the 7000s or 9000s

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