FPS drops to 50-60 in the new raid and game stutters. GPU usage drops to below 10% at times. CPU usage is around 15-20%. 9800x3d, 4090, 32 gb ram. Other games work flawlessly, with 95-99% gpu usage.
M+ is fine tho, 150+ fps with everything maxed out. Dornogal 120+ fps even during peak. But the new raid runs like poop? FPS is fine before the boss is pulled but its over once the fight starts.
What’s up with the new raid, why does it stutter so much even with 15-20 players?
Wow is more CPU dependent than a video card
Is there a specific fight that stands out as being really bad for you? Even in a jam-packed LFR my 9800X3D is doing great.
Also, even if the game did drop occasionally to 50-60fps, that shouldn’t cause any “stutter”. Do you have G-Sync configured?
CPU usage will always show as being low because the 9800X3D has 16 threads and the only way it would ever show 100% is if all 16 threads were fully utilized, which will never happen in WoW. It’s still benefiting greatly from the per-core performance of the 9800X3D.
Hard to tell where the bottleneck is.
I’m guessing memory system - i.e. WoW likes to make a lot of random reads from memory that the memory controller can’t predict and prefetch hence the CPU is just idle most of the time waiting for memory to send data it needs.
Can’t think of anything else.
Right?
Barely squeezing out 40fps with a 4080 and 5800x3d, 64gb ram etc etc
My pc is waayy overkill and the new raid runs like hot garbo.
Every single fight. I’ve even tried turning down all graphics settings to like 2. Before the boss is pulled, I’m sitting at 200+ fps but once the fight starts, it drops to 50-60, sometimes even low 40s.
GPU usage drops to 5%-9%. I’ve tried reinstalling the game, windows, gpu drivers etc. but nothing has worked so far.
WoW is literally the only game where this happens, other games work fine.
It’s probably something to do with the raid taking place in an ‘outdoor zone’, and a city at that. Combat’s always been the most taxing part of WoW, but adding the above on top of that probably isn’t helping matters.
I’m talking out of my rear though since I’m no software engineer. 
It may also just be under-the-hood changes to the game with 11.1 and the raid being laggy is coinciding with that.
Must be something on your end, I’m rocking a 9800X3D, 4070s and 64GB of ram on 1440p and I have everything fully maxed out and I never drop under 250FPS even in the raid.
I’m not saying WoW couldn’t be better optimized, but how many of these other games involve 20+ players doing their thing in the same spot at any given time?
What monitor do you have? The only way you should ever see “200+ fps” is if you have a 240Hz monitor or if you have G-Sync configured incorrectly. You should never see FPS above your monitor’s refresh rate.
If you have a 144Hz monitor for example, then in the Nvidia Control Panel (Not the Nvidia App):
Turn on G-Sync.
Set “Low Latency Mode” to “Ultra”
Set Vertical Sync to “On”.
This will automatically cap your FPS slightly below your monitor’s max refresh rate, and should give you smooth game-play even at relatively low FPS (even cheap Freesync/“G-Sync Compatible” monitors support down to 48Hz).
VSync ends up costing you performance. I find it better to have the occasional tear rather than send my 1% lows into potato territory.
It is probably a zone thing or connection issue
I myself use a 9800x3d paired with a 5070ti and 128GB of DDR5 3600 MHz RAM.
Playing at 4k (UHD), Dornogal floats between 60-90 fps.
Try reducing the resolution to FHD (1080p) and check.
On it’s own, yes, but not when used in conjunction with G-Sync, and having “Low Latency Mode” set to ultra is specifically intended to optimize G-Sync + V-Sync. The reason why V-Sync would lower FPS when used on it’s own is because, without something like G-Sync, it has to lower your FPS to a fraction of your refresh rate to prevent tearing. This doesn’t apply with G-Sync, for obvious reasons.
I have a 1440p 360hz display. But I have gsync, vsync etc. all turned off for now. Low Latency is on Reflex + Boost
I wasn’t talking about the in-game option, I was talking about the setting in the Nvidia Control Panel. It doesn’t apply if you don’t at least have G-Sync enabled. It’s a bit odd to not use G-sync, as it’s an amazing feature.
Because your hardware is garbage
The game has always struggled with larger amounts of players (not that 20 players should really be considered large). It’s heavily CPU bound and doesn’t distribute the work well among threads, leading to underutilization of both the CPU and GPU. I really wish they could find some way to improve it, but I suspect this is one of those things that’s never going to get better. The engine is old and probably makes a lot of assumptions about the order many operations happen in, something that becomes hard to guarantee when you start moving work out to other threads.
Man, feels weird raiding on a 1080 ti. Runs smooth without stuttering, then again, I don’t consider anything unplayable until it drops below 20 frames.
The game runs like hot garbage since the Dragonflight pre-patch and anyone saying it’s running smooth for them is either blind or lying. It’s not a hardware issue because the difference between the final Shadowlands patch and the Dragonflight pre-patch was clearly and immediately noticeable even though no hardware was changed. Even on an entirely different PC it’s the same.