Am I missing something here? Looking at this table it barely changes anything as far as I can tell. The table is below for reference:
New Rating
Rated PvP Title
Item Level
iLvl in PvP
Rank 1 Unranked
220
233
1000
Rank 2 Combatant I
226
239
1200
Rank 3 Combatant II
229
242
1400
Rank 4 Challenger I
233
246
1600
Rank 5 Challenger II
236
249
1800
Rank 6 Rival I
239
252
1950
Rank 7 Rival II
242
255
2100
Rank 8 Duelist
246
259
2400
Rank 9 Elite
249
259
Unrated PvP Step
Item Level
iLvl in PvP
Vendor
177
213
Step 1
184
216
Step 2
190
220
Step 3 (Renown 44)
197
223
Step 4
203
226
Step 5 (Renown 59)
210
229
Step 6
216
233
Looking at this table it doesn’t appear to be much of a change in gap from top to bottom.
Max upgraded honor gear is gaining 4 item levels from 229 to 233 (lol).
Unranked conquest gear is staying the same at ilvl 233.
Duelist+ gear is staying 259.
All they are really doing is adding a few steps in between current tiers with the most important being between rival (252) and duelist (259) with ilvl 255 at 1950. So shrinking that gap from 7 ilvls to 4. According to their own definition of average which is 1500 most players can probably hit 1600 which is the tier right before rival.
The biggest issue with gearing is new alts trying to cap at very low item levels and the mass of BG players who only use honor gear and/or some minimal rated PvP who never surpass unranked. This does nothing to address any of that. I wouldn’t dismiss the extra step between 1800 and 2100 as it’s helpful, but this isn’t the biggest problem imo and it’s not why there are so many complaints about gearing.
Also how long it takes to farm conquest/honor is another giant issue with gearing that is way more important than a few extra intermediate ilvl steps.
Maybe I am missing something and if so I’d appreciate someone pointing out what it is, but from what I can tell these changes are almost worthless. How is anyone praising these changes? It’s just jedi hand waving.
All they did was raise the bottom of the honor gear so it’s a little higher, they did not address the gap from honor to conquest yet, nor the gap from base conquest gear to max either.
Imo they need to use this chart
New Rating
Rated PvP Title
Item Level
iLvl in PvP
Rank 1 Unranked
220
259
1400
Rank 2 Combatant
226
259
1600
Rank 3 Challenger
233
259
1800
Rank 4 Rival
239
259
2100
Rank 5 Duelist
246
259
2400
Rank 6 Elite?
249
259
Unrated PvP Step
Item Level
iLvl in PvP
Vendor
177
249
Step 1
184
249
Step 2
190
249
Step 3 (Renown 44)
197
249
Step 4
203
249
Step 5 (Renown 59)
210
249
Step 6
216
249
Credit [Graendoll] I just removed extra conquest ranks.
Exactly. They bumped max honor gear 4 ilvls lol. Still have massive gear gaps between top and bottom, and still have massive honor/conquest grinds. The 2 most hated things by PvP players. These changes address none of this yet I have seen players say these are great improvements??? Legit baffled that anyone would be happy about this unless they are like me and just never took the time to actually analyze the changes.
They just give you a fake fix. Blizz don’t get it.dev don’t get it, we told them exactly what’s the issue and what exactly what we wanted/recommended add more steps in-between the gear levels so the discrepancy is not that big, according to ion, each item level is 1% stat. So pvp vs some one 13 leaves above you, means 13%more of everything, more damage, more hp, etc…
Posted it in 9.1.5 feedback as if it will change anything. Kinda crazy how I thought these were good changes until I actually spent 5 seconds looking at it.
I wouldn’t even care if they changed ilvls, if they would just increase conquest earned from PVP based on how much you have left able to farm as a catch up, and didn’t make honor gear such a stupid grind.
But for the unrated PVP crowd, it would be nice if they templated ilvl in BGs/skirms where everyone was just 259, if they refuse to actually fix the gearing.
To be fair, they would be slightly better then live. I say this agreeing they go nowhere near far enough. I’m just giving a reason why people were taking these as positive changes.