9.1 Tyrande cinematic

Well the second one was a hype for something that never arrived onscreen and the first one is a win? Its an execution of a guy who wanted to die. Does tripping a suicidal man off a cliff count as murder?

But good effort though!

How did the goblin get in behind them?

YES that is the ENTIRE point of this. The shredder should have never got the drop on them, but writing of the night elves in wolfheart was that bad.

The forest was filled with the sound of them. The fact that they didn’t hear one shredder immediately in the din created by the destruction of the forest isn’t remarkable. What is remarkable is their domination of the situation and their subsequent escape.

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Keep moving those goalposts.

:pancakes:

Quote tweeting so the rest of the bullets being conveniently ignored don’t get lost.

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Unfortunately that was the closest shredder to them. It was lucky that shredder was so far away from the others so it couldn’t get help.

The Sentinels’ only good fortune thus far lay in that this goblin had moved far ahead of the rest and, because of the din created by the destruction of the forest, their struggle went unheard.

Also they didn’t really dominate it, he got knocked out and she lost her weapon, was injured and was lucky to have pushed a tree on top of it.

This is where I do have to disagree with the tenor of things.

Terror of Darkshore was a good moment.
The Nathanos cinematic was a good moment.
Most of the recent cinematic was good.

One shouldn’t rush to immediately discount and invalidate exceptions to the eleven year trend that Mara effectively laid out. We should be fair in calling balls and strikes, we do not need to assert that literally everything is bad just to drive home the point that the overall trend is bad.

Further, we need to give credit in the instances where they do give good moments. If you hunt for ways to redefine moments like these into non-wins, what kind of feedback do you expect people to take from that?

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It’s more that nobody actually wants to talk to you that much.

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Hm… perhaps I should have been more clear in my joke text. Allow me to try again.

I would like the Night Elves to have an on screen victory against the Horde we see them similarily in Terror of Darkshore attack the Horde and destroy one of their cities like they have done numerous times to the Alliance.

A Teldrassil for the Horde to suffer and for the Alliance to enjoy.

Ah, there it is.

“That thing I constantly complain about and say is terrible? I actually just want it to happen to other people too!”

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Equality of bad events.
Nobody will leave uninjured.

Were you not entertained?

:pancakes:

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It was neutral at best when the full context of the cinematic is that Malfurion immediately goes back to being impotent in game.

It was good right up until Nathanos goes “All according to my plan.” Then the entire video was invalidated.

It’s an empty fight scene that ends much the same as the Nathanos cinematic ended. The War Criminal goes “All according to plan” and gets exactly everything they wanted.

People usually like to ignore them because they like to forget how the night elves are usually portrayed as victims or punching bags. People keep trying to point to Malfurion killing like 5 red shirts in the darkshore cinematic, or night warrior Tyrande killing a Nathanos after he was fighting a raid and he has no extra power ups.

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Why is wanting the Night Elves to win something a terrible thing? :thinking:

Do I see a Night Elf army there? No? Ok then :slight_smile:

This isn’t a refutation. If you’re standing in the middle of the highway and several cars are around, creating a cacophony of noise, you’re probably going to have some trouble pin pointing the exact location of one based on sound, even if it is the closest one to you, relatively. What is a remarkable display of their prowess is being able to smell it and react upon that immediately after the wind shifts. They identify their target, subdue it, and escape within the span of about a page. You’re portraying this as some grand defeat, but continued analysis of the text other further illuminates the night elves coming out of this conflict as superior in their portrayal.

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“Like to ignore them” as if those bullet points haven’t had literally hundreds of thousands of pages about discussing them from throughout the years since Cataclysm.

Nobody wants to discuss that again. Especially not with Nelfist here to play the eternal victim while wishing to murder us IRL.

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Oh, they were there.

Also: :point_down:

Keep moving those goalposts.

:pancakes:

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They don’t want to forget they prefer them to stay that way so they downplay it as much as possible and try to frame a few crumbs as an entire tray of cookies.

You don’t understand every Horde player was deeply attached to those 5 red shirts. It was a really big hit to them emotionally.

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