9.1 - Ner'zhul

So I know there’s a cinematic with Garrosh, but I have to ask does Ner’zhul have one or is just a standard fight? Furthermore does the encounter have lore reveals or hints that Ner’zhul isn’t destroyed when he’s defeated?

AFAIK he just has a well acted voice line when he dies. It doesn’t make any sense though, given where we are and that the arbiter is broken.

His end quote is basically “Finally i will be reunited with my wife”.

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Thanks for explaining and that really feels more like him expressing his greatest desire after everything he has gone through. Thus I don’t see it as something that doesn’t fit with the Arbiter being broken.

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I may have misremembered it. I thought he talked about seeing Rokhan or whatever her name was. Maybe not. Idk.

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I think what Dreadmoore was getting at is that with the Arbiter broken (assuming he doesn’t face oblivion) his soul will just be funneled back into the Maw.

Yep. We’re in Torghast. He ain’t goin’ anywhere.

At least WC’s first LGBT interracial couple will finally have a good ending.

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Her name was Rulkan.

If that’s the case, I’m rather curious if Ner’zhul will get more story then. For example Bolvar could decide he needs someone who had more time to bond with the Helm to help plan against the Jailer and with Arthas MIA, we traverse the Maw to locate Ner’zhul.

Plus if Ner’zhul and Garrosh are not obliterated, then it keeps the hope alive for a “Orcish Warchief of the Horde” type quest with the orc heritage armor. We got to find Backhand and Doomhammer.

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Two of three Lich Kings have been embarrassed thus far in this expansion. I’d be down for Bolvar making a temporary champion out of Nerzhul until we beat Zovaal.

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Why are people talking as if he’s going to just end up back in the Maw? When you get nixed in the Shadowlands, you cease to exist. You don’t just reset, I thought we’d been over this since day one of the expansion?

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You gotta destroy the soul to nix someone, don’t you?

I think about of the confusion is that while Blizzard was very clear on natives of the Shadowlands having that true death when killed, they’ve been a bit murky when it comes to other spirits. For example Ursoc they established as dead with the afterlives video after his wildseed was drained, but then they had Bwonsamdi outright tell us Hakkar will return after we kill his spirit in De Other Side.

And it just very unclear if it means that loa and wild gods need to be killed/drained from within their wildseeds to put them down for good or if there’s something different about Hakkar.

Furthermore we don’t know what side effects Ner’zhul’s spirit could have from being turned into the Lich King. After all it’s still unclear how he ended up in the Maw, weather it was just from his soul being bound to Maw artifacts like the Helm of Domination, being naturally sent there by the Arbiter, or if he ended up elsewhere and one the Jailer’s allies brought Ner’zhul to him.

Anyways, while it’s possible killing Ner’zhul made him cease to exist like with the natives, it’s also possible that Zovaal made sure that Ner’zhul could return to torment him further.

I think Hakkar had already been revived by the time we kill in in the dungeon, so he just turned into a wildseed again.

I want to go with this because I think it’s funny to imagine him raging inside his little cocoon about how he didn’t even get to do anything yet before he died again.

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God they did Hakkar so dirty, both here and BfA.

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They did Trolls dirty in Shadowlands. No race in Warcraft had more hype for a death realm than Trolls. It was turned into a dungeon to give Night Elves a Night Elven Ashenvale afterlife.

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