9 hours into Kul Tirans. Not a shred of fun

[Nisstyr-illidan]

@Leonhart-stormrage

I’m literally on the same boat. Upto stormsong valley right now as well. Didn’t mind the first two zones, Drustvar was actually pretty cool, but I’m tired now… Can I get my chubby human already?

See, I thought the same, get it done so I could unlock (B to the G Tiran) as a playable race.

Well, dust has formed on that race because I do not even play them.

[Calphricham-skywall (Calphricham)]

There’s plenty of fun to be had. The quests and story may just not be for you. Personally, I enjoy BFA storylines.

[Hambamwam-altar-of-storms]

Questing as a whole is mind numbing, doubly so when it’s content that half a decade old that has no real benefit to my current character

I’ve not had time to play my main because of this garbage game design

[Marla-westfall]

yes too bad someone is ‘forcing’ you to play a way you don’t enjoy

[Shadybolt-thrall]

If you are going to just force yourself through it rather than doing it at a leisurely rate, then I’d recommend just following these guides - that way you avoid doing quests that you can skip out on if your plan is to just ignore all of it

Then do the same thing for the 8.1 campaign

A Sound Plan

Drust Do It.

Stormsong and Dance

But here’s why I don’t think it takes ‘too long’ to unlock allied races:

1. This is part of the overall story arc of an expansion and the particular allied race - you don’t want to do the stuff that is supposed to be surrounding the allied race, then… meh’
2. Whilst this is a bad argument but everyone has had to do it for something which is a substantial benefit to one’s account, not a crucial or essential one, but still a benefit of more choices and options - the difference is whether you did it when it was current content and naturally got it or if you go back and rush through it on a max level character (or alternatively do it on an alt whilst leveling)
3. I doubt that it takes 9 hours to complete on a max level character, a few hours maybe, sure, but overall it ain’t anything that is too much of an ask of people to actually play the game

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

I’ve not had time to play my main

And here’s the final piece of information that’s relevant:
You chose the scenic route of doing it on a leveling character, that means it’ll take longer, not by much but it’ll take longer
But ultimately if you don’t want to do it, then don’t do it - especially not in a way that would be massively inefficent if your only goal would be to get 'em unlocked

[Hambamwam-altar-of-storms]

If I want this race, this is the only way to do it.

I want this race, so I am being forced to do it.

@Shadybolt-thrall

You chose the scenic route of doing it on a leveling character, that means it’ll take longer, not by much but it’ll take longer

I don’t have any other alliance toons

@Shadybolt-thrall

If you are going to just force yourself through it rather than doing it at a leisurely rate, then I’d recommend just following these guides - that way you avoid doing quests that you can skip out on if your plan is to just ignore all of it

Outside of one questline in Drust, I haven’t done a single side quest.

[Marla-westfall]

the fact you want this race NOW leads me to believe you are one of the sweaty people - otherwise you could do this type of content once you no longer had a desire to play your ‘main’. You are the only types who literally think you should get to skip everything except the content you want to do.

[Evilglinda-moon-guard]

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

Not one second of this has been enjoyable or interesting. Just hours and hours of slogging through trash content.

I just completed all three zones for the first time.

I had a ton of fun.

[Hambamwam-altar-of-storms]

@Marla-westfall

otherwise you could do this type of content once you no longer had a desire to play your ‘main’

My main is horde.

I literally cannot do this content on my main.

[Marla-westfall]

I bet you waste a lot of time in the game when you misread the quests.

[Hambamwam-altar-of-storms]

You think I read the quests? Lmao

I have azeroth auto pilot that auto accepts and turns in quests and automatically skips cutscenes

[Evilglinda-moon-guard]

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

What’s also garbage is players blindly defending objectively bad game design.

I’m not saying Marla is wrong.

What I am saying is that she always has an objectively bad opinion and always manages to state her bad opinions offensively.

[Shadybolt-thrall]

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

I don’t have any other alliance toons

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

If I want this race, this is the only way to do it.

I want this race, so I am being forced to do it.

So… you don’t want the allied race, you just want to collect it … but you don’t want to put the work into unlocking them any which way one can go about it
Gotcha’

Sorry but that’s not how allied races work - you being ineffiecent in questing isn’t going to really sway anyone in any way shape or form

And no, this isn’t ‘objectively bad game design’; allied races are introduced via a lot more story and have a specific role that they play in the current expansions at the time
That means unlocking them means doing that content

For reference, you are essentially asking for the game to include an “I want content but I don’t want to do what’s associated with it”-button into the game - can one change how allied races are unlocked? Sure
But you’d still be insane to argue anything other than “A faction that is inherently tied together with a particular kind or type of content requires you to at some level to engage with that content”

[Hambamwam-altar-of-storms]

@Shadybolt-thrall

So… you don’t want the allied race

I do want the allied race

@Shadybolt-thrall

but you don’t want to put the work into unlocking them

Correct. They shouldn’t require work. Period.

@Shadybolt-thrall

allied races are introduced via a lot more story

More story than every other race that has been introduced? Blood elves and Draenei definitely don’t that much lore, which is why they were given for free with the relevant expansion

@Shadybolt-thrall

“I want content

Allied races are not content.

[Shadybolt-thrall]

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

More story than every other race that has been introduced? Blood elves and Draenei definitely don’t that much lore, which is why they were given for free with the relevant expansion

Yes and no
Allied races are specific because they have their lore frontloaded, blood elves and draenei is lore that is built from the grounds up to be found anywhere and everywhere

That’s not the case with most Allied races

@Hambamwam-altar-of-storms

Allied races are not content.

They very much so are, regardless of whatever you think about it

[Irontide-aggramar]

Bursts into laughter as powerful as the sea crashing into the rocky shores of Kul Tiras

[Marla-westfall]

… and it still is taking you so long - what do you do have your character rp walking ?

[Hambamwam-altar-of-storms]

So they can change it so that the front loading of lore is not required, just like every other race in the game.

@Shadybolt-thrall

They very much so are, regardless of whatever you think about it

Calling allied races content is like calling water an entree

@Marla-westfall

and it still is taking you so long

Because it’s literally 416 quests

I don’t know what your pace is, but if I were to be done by now like you’ve been suggesting, I’d have to do 46 quests an hour or about 1.3 quests a minute.

Why don’t you find yourself see how fast you can get 416 quests done and get back to me

There are so many disingenuous and just flat out wrong people trying to chime in

[Marla-westfall]

because I leveled over 20 characters through that content and I am a slow quester and it never took me that long - plus you have to have flying so i really don’t know what the heck you are doing.

[Squatsdaily-dalaran]

For some reason people get Nostalgic about old expansions that everyone knows was bad and they start to believe that the expansion was underrated until they actually go back to play through some of the content and remember it isnt underrated it actually is trash.