In the opinion of people that play the spec. Will the buffs be enough? Will frost be good again? Speaking from a PvE standpoint.
That depends on the fights in Eternal Palace, not on the tuning of the spec.
Been enjoying frost DK as of late. 2 frozen tempest amd 2 icy citadel traights and I’m up there with DHs and Ourtlaw rogues for reaping packs. Oddly enough my toon only sims at 21k but I usually sit above 20k on tyrannical bosses in a 4-5 minute fight at 407 ilvl. I use gathering storm which feels more consistent and I hope obliteration or icecap will compete more closely with Breath of Sindragosa with 8.2.
Frost is still gated by CDs for damage unlike rogues or DHs so my damage does drop off if the fights last for a longer period.
Frost doesn’t feel too bad and can do great damage if played and geared properly. You really need crit to be above 25% and mastery above 50% to make the damage competitive.
Still wish I could tank as a frost dk from the good ole days of LK.
Icecap on the ptr is currently thr strongest build for ST and least punishing
I would be extremely surprised if that ended up being the case. With limited testing and no simulations, it’s really too early to tell.
Without essences Breath is something like 7% ahead of Icecap
I would be pleased personally because it provides DK’s with a spec that is not so cooldown reliant.
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Currently on ptr icecap is not the best build for ST. Breath is still the best and will likely still end up being the best ST talent unless more tuning is to be done between now and 8.2/next tier.
Is ice cap competitive?
Define competitive.
Within 5% of the other.
I believe it will be but it will not come close on AOE. So, you can be behind on ST and blown out of the water on Multi.
Oh, and it looks like Oblit will be third in both areas. So, grats on another patch where fog machine is the only choice.
Oh, and PVP? Yeah, still not gonna be nearly what our pet spec can do.
I hate what Blizz does with DK’s
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Unholy is def stronger than frost in everyway in pvp at least.
Ugh…makes you wonder why the hell DK has two DPS specs if one of them is entirely unviable in every aspect of the game.
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It’s barely a buff. No.
Nothing is unviable
In the strictest sense you are correct.
In terms of compared to its other DPS spec? I would say it is unviable.
Why play Frost if the ST and AOE are both inferior?
WHy bring a UHDK if its utility is weak compared to other melee classes?
That is what i mean.
Now mind you, I don’t abide by meta. A good palyer can make the class work, but if the class is poor then it brings a poor stigma.
That is absolutely true, you are basically hurting yourself by playing Frost over Unholy or a completely different class, still doesn’t mean it’s completely unviable though
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Fair enough.
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There is no reason any longer to ever even play the DK class. They have been replaced by DH’s. With the state of DK’s there really is no reason to bring one for group content.
We will always be brought simply for grips.
Blizzard has done a pretty good job the last few expansions to always include 1 mythic boss per tier that grip is pretty much mandatory.
Frost DK was also brought last tier because it was top tier dps.
Always play what you enjoy though.