Be the ones to strike first in the new story.
I don't want to see any kind of Horde aggression or action that causes the Alliance to invade Zuldazar. It should be an Alliance leader that decides, without a Horde event preceding it, to attack the Zandalari.
For too long it's been Horde=aggressors, Alliance=responders, I want to see a switch up.
You could also get some good Alliance faction story by having an Alliance leader get aggressive, (so... Genn probably) go against Anduin's wishes by attacking the Zandalari without being provoked, causing a major controversy in the Alliance by having a leader reject the will of the High King.
But knowing Blizzard they'll have the Horde do something stupid (again), and that'll cause the Alliance to attack (again...), and the stupid loop will continue.
I mean, even if they attack first they can just go "Well you broke into our capital, stole our prisoners, and sunk our ships!"
Well Ion did say that by the end of the expansion both sides would be heavily questioning themselves or some such so I am honestly hoping for a more aggressive Alliance.
I want anything (tentatively speaking) other than another Garrosh storyline.
I want anything (tentatively speaking) other than another Garrosh storyline.
You do realize that the Alliance can literally pull a general tullius here right? "You started this war, and now the [Alliance] is here to put you down!"
In either case, prepare to be disappointed
In either case, prepare to be disappointed
But what does the Alliance have to question? At least in this expac they have to finish this war in their eyes. The horde massacred most of a major city, the Alliance should settle for nothing but all out war and that means attacking first. There's nothing to ponder or "feel bad about".09/28/2018 12:20 PMPosted by SincubusWell Ion did say that by the end of the expansion both sides would be heavily questioning themselves or some such so I am honestly hoping for a more aggressive Alliance.
I want anything (tentatively speaking) other than another Garrosh storyline.
I'm just sad you're attacking Zuldazar instead of an actual Horde city.
C'mon! We're all running around in trollville trying to get them to join us (they technically aren't yet,) you guys should go burn down Orgrimmar! Or the Echo Isles, really stick it to the trolls in a place that matters to the Horde (we worked so hard to get those back!!)
THAT would get me emotional. We burned Teldrassil of all places! We set Stormwind on fire! We attacked the heart of the Alliance and y'all are going to burn some Troll city that isn't even a member of the Horde?
That's why the war campaign is dumb. I don't give a single F about the Kul Tirans, we don't even really know what their deal is because we never meet any.
C'mon! We're all running around in trollville trying to get them to join us (they technically aren't yet,) you guys should go burn down Orgrimmar! Or the Echo Isles, really stick it to the trolls in a place that matters to the Horde (we worked so hard to get those back!!)
THAT would get me emotional. We burned Teldrassil of all places! We set Stormwind on fire! We attacked the heart of the Alliance and y'all are going to burn some Troll city that isn't even a member of the Horde?
That's why the war campaign is dumb. I don't give a single F about the Kul Tirans, we don't even really know what their deal is because we never meet any.
09/28/2018 12:20 PMPosted by SincubusWell Ion did say that by the end of the expansion both sides would be heavily questioning themselves or some such so I am honestly hoping for a more aggressive Alliance.
I want anything (tentatively speaking) other than another Garrosh storyline.
He also said Teldrassil was gonna be "Morally Grey" so his word means very little at this point.
the alliance is incapable of rational thought or military competence.
they decided to let some kid run their entire army
they decided to let some kid run their entire army
09/28/2018 12:28 PMPosted by Desdinova09/28/2018 12:20 PMPosted by SincubusWell Ion did say that by the end of the expansion both sides would be heavily questioning themselves or some such so I am honestly hoping for a more aggressive Alliance.
I want anything (tentatively speaking) other than another Garrosh storyline.
He also said Teldrassil was gonna be "Morally Grey" so his word means very little at this point.
Players: "Sylvanas does it doesn't she"
Blizz: "Don't judge too quickly, you might be surprised"
Players: "Sylvanas does it doesn't she"
Blizz: "Don't panic just yet, it's more morally grey than you think"
*Blizz shows that Sylvanas does it, and it's plain evil*
Players: "wtf"
You already attacked Brennadahm lol.
And the Zandalari already helped the Horde and destroyed the Stormind ships.
And y'know, we're at open war.
So there's no way any kind of attack from any of the factions is a random unprovoked aggression now.
And the Zandalari already helped the Horde and destroyed the Stormind ships.
And y'know, we're at open war.
So there's no way any kind of attack from any of the factions is a random unprovoked aggression now.
09/28/2018 12:20 PMPosted by SincubusWell Ion did say that by the end of the expansion both sides would be heavily questioning themselves or some such so I am honestly hoping for a more aggressive Alliance.
I want anything (tentatively speaking) other than another Garrosh storyline.
He also said that the War of Thorns wasn't going to end the way we thought it was.
Then it did.
Sadly with the way the prepatch and early game storylines were written it doesn't matter. Sylv's war crimes are well documented, but then the Horde break into the SW, make off with prisoners, Alliance ships pursue, and the Zandalari fleet attacked.
Even if there is nothing else to go on, the aggression on Zuldazar is a response to that attack (and it is set up in the final stage of the Alliance war campaign). Annoyingly, it's also the act of "Horde" aggression the Alliance playerbase cares the least about. Yeah, let me get right on exacting righteous justice on poor King Rastakhan for something he didn't even do instead of going after the villains that are literally at war with life itself.
Even if there is nothing else to go on, the aggression on Zuldazar is a response to that attack (and it is set up in the final stage of the Alliance war campaign). Annoyingly, it's also the act of "Horde" aggression the Alliance playerbase cares the least about. Yeah, let me get right on exacting righteous justice on poor King Rastakhan for something he didn't even do instead of going after the villains that are literally at war with life itself.
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I wish we got story patches more often. I know we are in the "buildup phase" or whatever, but the conflict has already had two major battle fiascos for lack of a better word.
WTB an exciting Alliance storyline of some kind.
WTB an exciting Alliance storyline of some kind.
09/28/2018 12:26 PMPosted by RialtaBut what does the Alliance have to question?
Why they didn't dismantle the Horde last time, mostly.
So, the Horde started the war by attacking Teldrassil. Lured our leaders into a trap (which wasn't successful, at least). Invaded Kul Tiras and attacked one of their larger towns. And attacked in Arathi.
I think we're good. We can strike "first" in patch 8.1. We have plenty of reason to.
I think we're good. We can strike "first" in patch 8.1. We have plenty of reason to.
09/28/2018 12:32 PMPosted by AveryxYou already attacked Brennadahm lol.
I completely forgot about Brennandam.
It's so glad that Horde players are involved in that story and informed of it, otherwise everyone might completely forget that that major story plot happened.
/s just in case.
09/28/2018 12:34 PMPosted by Fortuna09/28/2018 12:26 PMPosted by RialtaBut what does the Alliance have to question?
Why they didn't dismantle the Horde last time, mostly.
This. Turns out Varian's biggest failure wasn't on the broken shore
09/28/2018 12:15 PMPosted by ByniriI don't want to see any kind of Horde aggression or action that causes the Alliance to invade Zuldazar.
Why would it be "Alliance aggression" for striking back? The war is supposedly in full swing after the invasion and destruction of the NE lands, at this point there is no "aggression". It is open warfare and for the Kultrian point of view, a little payback for the attack upon Stormsong.
At this point, Anduin would basically have to kill, cook and eat the entire population of Thunder Bluff for the moral horizons between the two factions to be remotely close.
I want Tyrande to just ignore the boy toy king. Like I want her to go around with her remaining army and just out right murder Horde town and villages. *channels inner Anakin* Not just the men but the women and the children. Not talking like one town or village like Taurajo, I mean every town from Feralas to Orgrimmar. THAT right there would make me question some of the alliance.
But we wont get that. She'll get her 15 minutes in her Night Warrior scenario and then sit around in Stormwind Keep until next expac probably.
But we wont get that. She'll get her 15 minutes in her Night Warrior scenario and then sit around in Stormwind Keep until next expac probably.