8.1 feels like the real release of the expansion

So many changes/fixes coming in 8.1 that should have been in place from the beginning if beta feedback was listened to.
Every major patch is well... major...
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Sêrax
Every major patch is well... major...


True, but BfA was clearly launched prematurely.
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Sêrax
Every major patch is well... major...


I understand that. But 8.1 has so many changes that are so obvious that it's hard to understand how these things had to be added later on.
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Kentaurus
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Sêrax
Every major patch is well... major...


True, but BfA was clearly launched prematurely.


So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time
11/07/2018 12:49 PMPosted by Elynos
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Kentaurus
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True, but BfA was clearly launched prematurely.


So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time


A lot of people disagree with this. People are willing to wait a few months more for an actual finished game.
11/07/2018 12:49 PMPosted by Elynos
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Kentaurus
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True, but BfA was clearly launched prematurely.


So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time


Legion was superior in every way to BFA. I would not have minded one bit to stay there for 3-6 more months.
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Kentaurus
11/07/2018 12:44 PMPosted by Sêrax
Every major patch is well... major...


True, but BfA was clearly launched prematurely.


And they stated they would not do any major class changes but minor changes during an Xpack
11/07/2018 12:52 PMPosted by Vorlith
11/07/2018 12:49 PMPosted by Elynos
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So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time


A lot of people disagree with this. People are willing to wait a few months more for an actual finished game.


Exactly. People were actually surprised at the release date when it was announced because it didn't seem like enough time. Turns out they were 100% correct.
11/07/2018 12:52 PMPosted by Vorlith
11/07/2018 12:49 PMPosted by Elynos
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So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time


A lot of people disagree with this. People are willing to wait a few months more for an actual finished game.


The game is never finished, it’s an mmo afterall
11/07/2018 12:42 PMPosted by Vorlith
So many changes/fixes coming in 8.1 that should have been in place from the beginning if beta feedback was listened to.


Going through life thinking like this makes you miserable, seriously.

The past is gone my friend, it is gone for good. Ruminating on what could have been is a surefire recipe for distaste in your mouth.
11/07/2018 12:42 PMPosted by Vorlith
So many changes/fixes coming in 8.1 that should have been in place from the beginning if beta feedback was listened to.
On the upside I assume we can look forward to an end of the...

"BfA worst xpac ever"
"Azerite gear gave my gerbil cancer"
"My class is literally unplayable"
"UNSUB!"
...threads.
11/07/2018 12:57 PMPosted by Kentaurus
11/07/2018 12:52 PMPosted by Vorlith
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A lot of people disagree with this. People are willing to wait a few months more for an actual finished game.


Exactly. People were actually surprised at the release date when it was announced because it didn't seem like enough time. Turns out they were 100% correct.
11/09/2018 04:00 AMPosted by Crowlay
11/07/2018 12:42 PMPosted by Vorlith
So many changes/fixes coming in 8.1 that should have been in place from the beginning if beta feedback was listened to.
On the upside I assume we can look forward to an end of the...

"BfA worst xpac ever"
"Azerite gear gave my gerbil cancer"
"My class is literally unplayable"
"UNSUB!"
...threads.


No it'll still be there. Like it was during BC and onward.

On the plus end. we're getting tons of changes and no dev side projects passed off as content.
Still with bugs and crappy class balance? Yep, sounds like BFA release.
11/07/2018 12:49 PMPosted by Elynos
So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time


At least it was fun
11/09/2018 04:00 AMPosted by Crowlay
11/07/2018 12:42 PMPosted by Vorlith
So many changes/fixes coming in 8.1 that should have been in place from the beginning if beta feedback was listened to.
On the upside I assume we can look forward to an end of the...

"BfA worst xpac ever"
"Azerite gear gave my gerbil cancer"
"My class is literally unplayable"
"UNSUB!"
...threads.


At the cost of MANY subs...I know my 2 are expired before 8.1 and I have no plans to return until Classic arrives. The core of the game is broken and a patch wont change it.
11/09/2018 04:00 AMPosted by Crowlay
11/07/2018 12:42 PMPosted by Vorlith
So many changes/fixes coming in 8.1 that should have been in place from the beginning if beta feedback was listened to.
On the upside I assume we can look forward to an end of the...

"BfA worst xpac ever"
"Azerite gear gave my gerbil cancer"
"My class is literally unplayable"
"UNSUB!"
...threads.

You're kidding, right? Every expansion and every patch has those. That's why Blizzard tuned them out so long ago. Oh excuse me, I mean "stopped listening to player feedback". (Which is BS, speaking as someone who reported dozens of bugs and annoyances in beta that actually *didn't* make it to launch).

Everyone who is now saying Legion was so great, meaning 7.4, is forgetting all the 7.0 complaints about talent and legendary balance (some of which were legit, it's an inevitable part of the expansion cycle).

The idea that if they had just waited a little longer the expansion would have launched in a state of balance perfection is and always has been dumb.
8.1 feels a lot like 2.1, 3.1, 4.1, 5.1... The launch of each expansion has always contained the new levels, dungeons, and a raid. The X.1 usually has a raid, some balance fixes, and some story content. Nothing new here.
11/09/2018 04:39 AMPosted by Inviscerate
11/07/2018 12:49 PMPosted by Elynos
So what, better than being stuck in legion doing antorus for the 50th time


At least it was fun


No it wasn’t. Everything becomes dull after a while