8.1 failed druids

8.1

Balance came out unscathed/better out of this patch. as for the rest of the specs it looks pretty grim.

Restoration was a 1 trick pony and the one good thing it had going for it (Tranq) was nerfed. Method released a video and ranks druids at the bottom for 8.1 and to quote “Why bother bringing a resto druid”. Resto should still be good in M+ at least for those who care. Druids are the new resto shaman it seems.

Guardian is pretty laughable. The worst tank of all and brings nothing meaningful. The 12% dps buff is a joke after one quick look at WCL. Still super far behind any other tank in damage. Sorry but ursols vortex isn’t going to help guardians woes in M+. Only place they might be better now is Flag carrier in RBG only because of VDH nerfs.

Now for the biggest joke of them all. Feral druids. The “buffs” nerfed feral druids into the worst dps class in the game according to initial parses and sims. But at least we have AoE talents that tickle mobs now. At least they threw em a bone with pvp cyclone.

Blizzard, you failed druids this patch.

I’m going to stick it out only because I cant stomach grinding all my stuff again even though its easier now. I suspect a lot of non-balance mains will be rerolling.

And please, before you come in with they are “fine for normal/heroic” or low keys, please take that overused worn out tiresome and refuted argument somewhere else.

Hopefully some changes can be made ahead of draz.

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Resto is doing fine. The method video was riddled with poor math, inaccuracies and was made in paint. If you are taking advice from paint diagrams then I don’t know what to tell you.

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Makes sense, I guess ill take your advice over a multi-world first R1 healer.

Oh wait, they are already at the bottom of WCL initial parses…real data! wow.

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It’s almost as if all the healing specs are really close together now. Anyway, you don’t have to listen to me. ChrisPotter himself admitted he was mistaken with his math. Go through the Druid section of the video and listen carefully. Then get out a notebook and do the fifth grade math yourself. See if it lines up with what he’s telling you.

https://i.imgur.com/SUhheFH.png

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I said this yesterday and I’ll say it again, Methods video matters if you’re in the top 1% of elite gamers trying for world firsts. If you are in the 99%, then resto is fine. Relax.

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please come up with something better than that tiresome, overused and easily refuted 99% response.

99% of the people out there can clear most content naked if they wanted to that doesn’t mean it’s okay.

I have talked with Chris. He feels Resto doesn’t bring any unique strengths which can be important in a world first race but admits they’re likely to be middle of the pack in HPS in the new raid. We’re obviously not top of the totem pole but we’re not in a dire state at all. Also still top 2 spec in Mythic+ as you mentioned.

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Coming from a Prot Warrior/Guardian Druid 8.1 was a step in the right direction for both specs. There is still plenty of room for improvement but at least some changes were made.

Vortex and the decreased cd on Stampede will be bigger than most people initially think for M+. Threat and Magic Damage will still be a hindrance but there are Guardians clearing +16-18’s prior to the patch. They got better yesterday, time will tell onto the extent of how much better off they have become.

For RBG’s I pray to 8 pounds 6 ounces newborn infant Jesus that we can become viable FC’s again. I like to picture Jesus in a tuxedo T-shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I’m here to party.

To be fair, we’ve always followed paint diagrams for feral.

See: feral john madden flowcharts

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yea that 1.5 pvp cone always lands ! LUL

Playing a resto druid isn’t fun though thats my issue. Even at a lower level, if you have any healer pop any of their cds or go hard while you tranq then you’re done. Resto druids are the targets and every other healer are the snipers.

Resto has always had issues with being sniped. In any organised group you’re coordinating your healing so that nobody is going hard during Tranq. It’s powerful enough to carry any moment in the fight where you’d use it. I understand that doesn’t always happen in pugs but the pug experience has always been a little more haphazard. I don’t really know how you change that. HoTs are always going to be vulnerable to overhealing if you have too many healers.

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