7900XTX vs 4080S Performance in WoW?

I built my new PC at the end of 2023, with an AMD 7800X3D, 32GB 6000MHz RAM, and a 7900XTX. I play on a 4k 60Hz monitor with everything maxed.

In most of WoW I get 60FPS. But doing group activities, such as SuperBlooms my framerates drop to the 45FPS range. If I turn off Ray Traced Shadows my framerates are better, usually around 55-60.

I have seriously been double thinking my purchase of the 7900XTX due to the driver timeouts in WoW, but it plays most other games I throw at it easily.

I was expecting better performance than this from watching various YouTube videos, but I’m wondering if this is normal? Does a 4080Super have the same issues? What kind of performance does a 4080 Super get in this game?

Thanks :slight_smile:

The 4080s will fair better with Ray Tracing but Ray Tracing in WoW isn’t really worth it to begin with. Other games yes.

I had a similar build 7800x3d with the reference 7900xtx. Ran WoW as expected, 90% of the time it was above 100fps with the occasional group play where it can dip as low as 45fps.

I now have a 4080s and its more or less the same.

The driver issue was not an issue under Linux so unfortunately can’t help you there.

I don’t think that this has anything to do with your videocard. In large group content, and even to a lesser extent just in highly-populated cities, you will experience low FPS. This is a limit of the game itself for the most part, not so much the hardware on your end. The only thing you can do to help, to a limited extent, is throw as much CPU power at it as you can. With a 7800X3D however, you’re already running what is currently the fastest CPU for WoW, so there is nothing more you can do in that regard.

In most of these group activities, your videocard will NOT be the bottleneck. If you have the option, it is handy to have a 2nd monitor hooked up to monitor your GPU usage while you game. Any time your GPU usage is less than 100%, then something else is the bottleneck. My guess is that your GPU is probably <50% usage during most of these group activities. The most GPU intensive parts of the game are actually when doing things like flying high in the air with view-distance set to maximum, and other outdoor activities to a lesser extent. Times when there is not a lot of action for the CPU and the game engine to process, but a lot of terrain and textures that need to be rendered.

Even though I don’t think that your videocard is the problem, I think that the 4080S is easily the better card of the two. The Nvidia drivers are better and more reliable. There is less of a performance hit when using Ray Tracing. You get nice features such as Nvidia Reflex + Boost. Nvidia cards also just seem to age better. In one of my spare computers it’s still using 2x GTX680 from 2012, and even SLI still works (AMD Crossfire on the other-hand died the moment they removed exclusive-fullscreen from the game).

But since you already have the 7900XTX, you should probably just keep using it. It’s a fine card.

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Do yourself a favor and get a 4080S and find someone to buy your 7900 XTX. The AMD driver issues have plagued WoW for seemingly a year.

I just bought a 7900 XTX last week and spent all weekend trying to troubleshoot the driver crash. I managed to play all day today without issue until a few hours ago when tbe driver crashed again. Helldivers 2 crashes it, too. The AMD forum, reddit, and WoW forums are all up in arms to fix the driver crash for a year (?!?!). Nvidia doesn’t have these problems. They’re not perfect, sure, but something so egregiously bad in a large collection of super popular games would be a top priority to get fixed.

Oh, also if you have the means – a 4k/120hz monitor will be a huge improvement, too, since your monitor is bottlenecking your game performance for either card. I find the absolute most important thing being 120h at a minimum. I have a 240hz dual 4k setup (which is why I got tbe 7900 XTX since Nvidia doesn’t support Display port 2.1 yet) but I cannot tell the difference between it and 120hz in WoW.

I did have WoW running at 240fps at 7680x2140 with the 7900 XTX. Not worth. 120fps is fine and the 4080S should have no issue reaching that. I’m picking up mine tomorrow and sending tbe 7900 XTX to Amazon. The headache with the really crappy drivers for AMD isn’t worth it at all.

I have an overclocked 4080 non-super, and I’m getting CPU bound on the 7800x3d in 4k.

I’m running a 7800x3d and (now) a 4080 Super in an ITX build so I’ve been tweaking things to get temps/load as low as possible while doing archaeology in Wotlk/Cataclysm Prepatch

Running flawlessly in 4k/120fps 35-45c GPU and 40-50c CPU by bringing render scale down to 1080p-levels (lol) w/ FidelityFX Super Resolution enabled. I can barely tell the difference versus running at native 4k; it’s neato

I set render scale to 100%, turn vsync on, and it pretty rarely dips below 144.

Yeah, it’s a sweet CPU/GPU combo for sure (even the non-Super).

Unfortunately this big ol’ monitor I have doesn’t support 240hz @ 4k on any Nvidia card (which is why I bought the 7900 XTX to begin with since it has DisplayPort 2.1) – can easily do the 240 FPS @ 1440p. GPU is pushing even more frames, well above 350… but it’s just wasted processing at that point so with vsync on and capping frame rates, I just swapped back over to 4k/120 on the HDMI connection

I like how WoW client framerate caps stop at 200; they’re going to have to up that value here in a few years I think xD

I run 4k144 over displayport DSC, but the super isn’t really a new card, it’s a glorified price cut of the 4080.

Wasn’t claiming it was new – just that it… well, it works compared to the mess that the 7900 XTX is right now. I saw AMD JUST acknowledged the WoW driver crashing issue on RDNA3 today… after, what, 7+ months? Cringe

You playing at 1080P?

I’m at 1440 and I routinely drop below 60 with a 13700k and a 4080. Game is definitely CPU-bound but I don’t think there’s any hardware that keeps this game above 100fps consistently at high settings.

4k.

Valdrakken is CPU bound, but if you turn down environment detail, it reduces that bind (not sure why).

Also, I’m using a 7800x3d, and wow really likes cpu cache.

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Interesting. I’ll have to try turning down environ in that case

I did some testing to see what settings had the biggest effect on the CPU bind, and it was render distance and environment detail.

I’m going through the EXACT same predicament.

I honestly can’t fault the 7900 XTX, it delivers amazing performance in every other game.

But WoW is unplayable. I have tried every possible troubleshooting step; I’ve just come to terms that AMD/Blizzard need to implement a fix.

The radio silence for over 1 year since a blue post is just not acceptable either on Blizzards part.

Did you end up buying the 4080s?