7800X3D reviews

What resolution do you play at? I think the last thing I’m waiting on is RAM and that should be here tomorrow.

4k120HZ 10bit HDR, I run on an LG C1 48inch Oled Panel being driven by a 6900XT at 2850 on the core.

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Best I can do is 1440p@165HZ at the moment :frowning:

Very jealous of your TV though. Once my 3D TV dies or I decide to put it in storage I’m going after an LG C series.

Do let me know what you manage to get as the CPU perf is irrelevent Vs resolution

And it’s a glorified monitor :smiley:

i7-7700k + 2080ti

7800X3D + (same 2080ti)

FPS counter is in bottom right.

Also, I would get 30-40 fps in valdrakken before with i7-7700k.

Now I get 80-100 (cap) fps in valdrakken with 7800X3D.

Hopefully this helps. I had a hard time finding info about 7800X3D and WoW benchmarks.

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was the 7700k at stock? Regardless thats a little more than doubling your fps after roughly 5 years of being on that platform.

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The 7700k was at stock. But yeah it was a significant upgrade for WoW.
I was fine throughout Shadowlands. But something in Dragonflight really bogged down my system.

Also on a side note, the 7800X3D tends to run “high” on idle, at least compared to what I was used to on i7-7700k. It regularly sits at 40-50C (spikes to 50) when just browsing web.

But under load (gaming) it hovers around 55-70C (spikes at 70-75C). So it seems very low power draw under load compared to intel CPUs. But higher than average draw for power on idle.

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I can kind of answer your question and give you an idea

I can’t say for sure because I have not personally tested the 7800x3D but I would assume it is about the same if not slightly better than my 7900x. It definitely wouldn’t be any worse it would be the same or better

I get 80-100 fps in Valdrakken @4k on Ultra depending on time of day and how many people are there. The frame Skyrocket the moment I leave the zone. Im on a RTX 4090 just to note

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did you start to use RTX more often?

by design the new AMD CPUs run hotter, those temps are nothing out of the ordinary for them

so far you have only posted temps not power draw, the 7700k was fairly efficient back in the day (also a 4c/8t CPU)

I could find no difference in visual quality or performance of RTX shadows on / off.
So I just never use it.

Yeah, I just wasn’t used to the “high” idle temps for AMD CPUs. I reseated my air cooler at first then I looked up information from other 7800X3D owners and it sounds like this is normal. Benchmark videos all covered temps / power usage at load but not at idle.

I already uninstalled HWinfo but I can post power draw also. But also there are lots of other benchmark videos that do the same.

I guess if people want, I can post power draw of WoW + 7800X3D. But yeah, this CPU sounds to be super power efficient under load. Especially if you compare to intel 13th gen.

I finished putting my build together yesterday so I did the Community Feast event with a lot of people there and I don’t think I went under 60 fps once. I don’t remember my fans getting any louder either. This is with a 7800X3D and a 3080 with every setting maxed except raytracing, which is disabled. It’s also on my 1080p television @ 60Hz BUT STILL!

I swapped out my 7700X for a 7800X3D a few weeks ago and I am struggling to see much difference between the 2 in Valdrakken. The lows look a little better (maybe 10 fps) but I see no difference in smoothness at all. I’ve benchmarked it with Cinbench and my numbers seem to be a little higher than avg too. It’s really tough to tell in Valdrakken though as the fps varies so much with population at the time. I’m not sure if it’s just me but I swear I see more in game hiccups with the X3D. I might put my 7700X back in and test it out more.

A 7700x and 7700k are two different generations of cpu. The 7700k would be closer to the intel i3 series by todays standards.

during prime time server login time at the major city and the addons you use along with resolution and if you have antialias/scaling you’re not going to see a huge difference between the 7700x and 7800x3d.

The difference between 40fps and 50fps is much more noticeable here though in terms of gameplay.

The 7700x is an excellent gaming CPU so the jump from it to the 7800X3D may not be as significant as someone going from the a 5700x (or even 3700x) to the 5800X3D, especially if they are GPU limit (I don’t know your GPU or monitor so you may or may not be)

it is, just runs hot but that’s the new normal

weird that it was fine in shadowlands but took a major hit in dragonflight. I believe you, just curious to what it may be

no it would not, the 7700k would be similar to comet lake i3 that still used the same skylake micro-architecture as the 7700k. Alder lake and raptor lake i3’s like 13100 offer 8700k or better performance; as per a recent techspot review the 13100 was offering Ryzen 5500 performance and just 10% below the 5600. If any modern i3 would be close to the 7700k in terms of performance it would be the mobile variants like the 13100T that are held back by power limits as Intel lists it’s condition as PC/Client/Tablet

I guess I underestimated the ipc gains over the last few generations. The gap wasn’t as large with coffee lake and even ice lake.

Knowing your resolution, refresh rate, GPU and Ram Speed will help know what your limiter or bottleneck is. If you even have one. The difference is larger if you are on say a RTX 4090 vs a RTX 3080. Yes even in WoW

Even in AAA titles the difference between the 7700x and 7800x3D @ 4k on a RTX 4090 for example are minimal at bast. The difference is huge at 1080p though. I game at 4k which is why I am sticking with my Ryzen 9 7900x.

Actually there are some rare games that count on raw clock speed over L3 cache. In those titles the 7700x will actually do better because it has a base clock of 4.5 boost to 5.4 or better depending on the type of OC you run if you run one. Where the 7800x3D has a base clock of 4.2 and boost to only 5.0 and cant be OC other than with PBO

Yeah, I’m not sure what changed between shadowlands and Dragonflight. But there was a significant decrease in performance (Obviously CPU related). That kind of pushed me into upgrading my CPU.

I know my i7-7700k isn’t a fair comparison because it is super old. But that’s also what drove me to upgrade, was the poor performance I was seeing in Dragonflight. I’m sure a 7700x would have been a huge upgrade as well.

But for anyone out there with 5+ year old CPUs and are looking at upgrading their GPU for WoW, save your money and go for CPU. At least that is my experience, my 2080ti still can keep up at 3440 X 1440 @ 100 fps.

X3D CPUs on fire!
https://videocardz.com/newz/redditors-ryzen-7-7800x3d-cpu-burns-out-gamersnexus-immediately-offers-to-buy-it

Asus boards are affected for now.

ASUS had a BIOS update come out yesterday so hopefully that fixes the issue. If not I may stick with my old PC in the living room for a while longer.

Edit: I see in the article they said the pulled the BIOS down but for my board its still up so I’m sticking with the 7700k until this whole thing blows over.

Asus Strix X670E-E, 32gb DDR5 6000 CL30, RTX 4080. Running 1440P/240hz. I am running the latest bios and my cpu/mobo hasn’t burst into flames yet… :boom:

Edit: I just threw the 7700X back in and did more testing. I now have the 7800X3D back in. There is a boost of around 15 to around 25 fps with the 7800X3D, between the lows and highs (roughly). Hard to notice in actual gameplay since even the boosted fps in Valdrakken is still stuttering even though it bounces between 75 fps and 130+ depending on the population and where you are.

While I had the cpu out I found no evidence of any overheating or burning on the cpu or socket, so all good here for now.

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