It’s a fact that people will always do whatever gives the most honor, so it makes sense that AB and WSG were practically dead due to AV just being superior honor per hour. I understand that the devs were trying to buff AB and WSG so more people would play those battlegrounds.
That being said, giving us an extra mark for losing and increasing the turnin to 7500 honor has to be the dumbest and most incompetent decision ever. The only thing this does, is incentivize loss, and it has absolutely killed any pvp. No other honor farm in the game can give you over 7500 honor in around 10 minutes, except for intentionally losing. I and others simply just want to play WSG and AB in SoD, and it’s in such a terrible state right now. NOBODY is playing, people are just afking, all because of this one simple change. What we have now is a completely unrewarding and unengaging pvp system that invalidates any real incentive to pvp.
Not everybody in sod likes to raid log, some of us actually like playing the game and killing the other faction. As unbalanced and messy as SoD pvp is, I have still had lots of fun with it thus far. But this 7500 honor turnin change has made pvp practically unplayable, and I know I’m not the only one who agrees with this take.
Please revert this change, and do something that actually fixes battlegrounds? Simply increase the honor gains from WSG/AB objectives, and add a separate premade vs premade queue that gives a ton of honor for wins. The first change is a buff to AB/WSG that actually incentivizes participation. The second change effectively solves the premade vs pug issue, allowing for a casual queue as well as a high reward, high intensity premade queue.
If I wanted to do that, I would go world pvp. I and others queue AB to play AB. Regardless this is not engaging gameplay at all, we both know you would rather have real AB games where you get way more HKs and hold flags. And most games for me, have been abysmal, people aren’t even capping ST and are staying in the church.
Yeah, none of this is the players’ fault. They will always take the path of least resistance. That’s what creates the meta. So design dictates meta. It’s on Blizzard to design something that can’t be just bypassed so easily like this.
That would require actual pvp, which I guess I hate to say, alliance actually might be incapable of. Which is wild because I’m the first to not want to put tribal labels on anything, but with rets>enh and ele< other ranged pvp. I’m surprised the alliance don’t actually engage in combat because before it was shamans were too OP
It’s better than sprinting to the forums to complain when it’s a known fact Blizz generally steers clear of general discussion by default.
The most you’ll get here is a sounding board of other players who hate blizzard and/or people who will try to provide you common sense solutions which will get a lot more traction.
exactly right, people were crying on here since av release that there is too much pve, well now its literally a 15 v 15 death ball for 5 minutes, perfect
Please stop trolling. This honor mark turnin change has ruined any genuine enjoyment when participating in AB/WSG. It is objectively horrible for pvp. Forming a premade doesn’t fix the larger issue at hand.
You people are all okay with this? Okay, I guess you people like playing garbage. Afking for pvp gear that you will not even use in pvp is a complete waste of time, so have fun!
SoD and classic+ are doomed not only because of this incompetent dev team, but also because of an out of touch playerbase too naive to realize how much of a low effort milk cash grab this version of classic has been.
It’s the drive for honor that creates the toxic culture of META grinding that then transcends into…
Let them win…
Premade too strong; don’t res, stay dead in gy…
Leave BG…
Enter BG…
Next person enters BG…
Leaves BG…
If people are chasing honor, then they’re not really PvPing and looking for a fight because a real fight gets gritty that then gets drawn out and max honor may not even be achieved.
I’ve seen so many classic Andy nerds brag about how they’re a few BGs away from acquiring everything they need in which they then state that they never want to do another BG again…
So they were never really in it for the fight; they were just in it for gear to use in other endeavors.
This is absolutely the dumbest thing ever. The base is so stupid. I came back to play sod for PVP but these changes are dumb. extra honor extra token and nobody even PVPs anymore. these are the absolute worst changes
Take away the crutch… Shamans are the biggest crutch so give Shamans to Allies and Pallys to Horde, it will never be perfect people will just complain about racials but it will be a hell of a lot better than it is now.
Funny thing to note, most AAA MMO’s don’t have racials, they learned from Blizzards stupid mistakes, to bad Blizzard will not learn from their own mistakes.