6am server and there is alliance camping dmf buff. 2 feral druids, a rogue, and spriest shadowmelded.
can’t get a raid group together to get the buff.
can we just have double darkmoon faire at all times? im assuming aggrend doesn’t know how to script that and will have to outsource it though.
PVP server. Lucky for you Wild Growth is the main server now so when the xfers open up just head on over and you wont have this issue anymore! Hope you have a wonderful day Tripwire 
i dont mind wpvp which is why i chose a pvp server. the problem is that the buff is completely blocked off and unaccessible.
PvP happening on a PvP server.
pvp on a pvp server is great. making a buff unobtainable is bad design.
You have to fight for what you want. They could make it spawn in both locations simultaneously, but of all the various things the game needs, the last item on my list for dev attention is this issue tbh.
Kill the alliance and get your buff.
They could just remove those nearby citizens and all is well.
Or Horde will probably kite citizens to grief Alliance like they did last time DMF was in TB and there was conflict.
This will ultimately be solved by no one grouping with anyone else if they have any regards for their pvp rank status while getting DMF.
you need a 40 man raid to kill the alliance at 6am server. tried to get a group together on the most poplar server and could not.
it is obvious that those are the terms to get the buff. it’s unobtainable. it’s bad design.
In your original post you mention 4 alliance players gatekeeping the buff from you, why do you need a 40 man raid again?
DHK system is awful and should be removed from all versions of wow now and going forward.
feral druids, rogue, and spriest shadowmelded. then within minutes a lock and mage showed up. u cant fight an enemy u cant see. currently ferals are killing warriors in full t1 within 2 seconds. at least that’s what is shows in my death log. u need a raid to fight the alliance stay alive and to get the buff. it’s bad design.
Have someone in Org queue you for AV (I tipped someone 10g to do this)
Wait for queue to pop outside DMF
Use invis potion
Make sure you have nova world buffs addon and enable it to automatically select damage buff
Talk to sayge, hit shield wall, take BG cue
If necessary, use protection potions to absorb elemental dmg beforehand (Pre pop, last one hour) and/or use a LIP
i did that already. my av popped, i invis potted, ran up to sayge, got hit in stealth and died within 2 seconds.
my friend managed to take the av queue before dying, but died while zoning into av, lost his dmf buff, and put on 8 hour cd.
it’s not obtainable and it’s poor design.
I was able to obtain it just fine at like 1 or 2 AM server on crusader strike horde
They shouldn’t be seeing you with invis pot on until you’re right up on sayge
Next time, use shield wall and a LIP at the same time right before you hit sayge and then click through and then click queue. You won’t die, guarantee
The civilians are poor design, they should remove DHK from the game, but getting the buff in enemy territory is part of the charm of classic
You can do it, I promise
“I don’t mind World PVP except when it interferes with my PVE metagaming obsession”
it’s part of the charm, definitely, but this isn’t cute like 2019. it’s worse than 2019. dmf is being camped 24/7 now. the community is making the game bad and unplayable.
dev’s need to adjust to community needs. I know aggrend can’t do coding so he needs to put in a work order and get it taken care of asap. dmf on both sides.
I’m telling you that it’s not. I’m on CS Horde as well, and there were several times this week where guild members of mine strolled in and got it, and I did as well with minimal interference
I promise if you do what I said you’ll get the buff
If you wanna get crazy with it pop a frost/fire/shadow protection potion before heading up to DMF and then also use shield wall and LIP prior to clicking, you will 100% live and survive
We get 300+ g a week from dailies, these consumes cost next to nothing
Things like DMF that make the open world feel dangerous are 100% necessary to the classic feel
there’s a difference between having wpvp and being griefed sometimes, and having an issue where a buff is now unobtainable.
u saying u got dmf this week is cap. i got killed 3x this week peak and non peak hours trying to get it.
That’s the fun of classic. The world feels dangerous all the time. You can be griefed grabbing your SF too. You can be griefed in the inn of Orgrimmar by 2-3 stealthed rogues who get you as soon as you hearth. That’s the fun
it’s fun but there is a difference between dangerous and unobtainable. it’s’ not the 2019 classic feel where you get an adrenaline rush getting wbuffs. like the dmf buff is actually not obtainable.
in 2019 u remember people by name because they grief so much. they arent always online, but their full time job when they are online is to grief.
that’s the charm.
things are more extreme now, and have never been this way before. right now the buff is camped 24/7. it’s bad design.