The weekly conquest needs to be buff to at least 1000 if PvPers arent going to have a vault. For comparison in dragonflight we got 550 a week plus a vault! So removing vault for an extra 50 conquest points? What was the thought process on this?
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You get a free weapon set. So 1800 conq for 3 weeks is 600 conquest, so were technically getting 1200 a week for now.
Also free heraldries is 2 pieces of gear upfront.
So no vault but were ahead by almost 4 to 5 pieces of gear.
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It needs to be free weap or 10 haraldrys or w/e they’re called to craft a weap. The weap you get isn’t even bis for some classes and for those of us who need to craft one this free weap is just a waste.
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Bad stats tho. Not worth it since they stupidly didn’t give us a choice of which we’d like or a token to buy whatever.
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With the free weapon how many weeks will it take for you to be completely geared? How many weeks would you like it to be?
Do these calculations for fury warrior because 2x 2hander.
Yeah “for now” is the key part of that. I’m not doing the math to figure it all out but a subpar weapon reward ain’t cutting it for me.
We got 2 free pieces last xpac too though.
Ultimately it is what it is and I am not sitting over here malding about it, but I will also call it out for being stupid when it’s discussed. They should just change the weapon reward to 10 heraldries and up the conquest rewards so everyone can be fully geared by week 6. Do we really need to wait 3+ months to be playing with full gear?
Here are the new weekly Conquest caps as compared to Dragonflight Season 3:
| Dragonflight Season 3 Conquest Cap | The War Within Season 1 Conquest Cap | |
|---|---|---|
| Week 1 | 1350 | 1600 |
| Week 2 | 1900 | 2200 |
| Week 3 | 2450 | 2800 |
| Week 4 | 3000 | 3400 |
| Week 5 | 3550 | 4000 |
| Week 6 | 4100 | 4600 |
| Week 7 | 4650 | 5200 |
| Week 8 | 5200 | 5800 |
| Week 9 | 5750 | 6400 |
| Week 10 | 6300 | 7000 |
| Week 11 | Conquest Cap Removed | Conquest Cap Removed |
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I mean, the weapon being sub optimal sucks, but its still a free stat stick. The benefit of having sub-optimal free weap + 2 pieces outweighs an optimized weapon only, imo.
Right, but the benefit of an optimized weapon+2 pieces is even better. Why would it have to be a choice between the two? That’s a false dichotomy imo. There’s no reason to do it like this other than it’s being done incorrectly and nobody (at blizzard) cares to fix it.
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we’re like almost halfway done with pvp gearing week 1 and you’re complaining
this is the best version of gearing ever produced in pvp, sans tier sets, and you’re complaining
get a grip
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doesn’t matter. skill > gear always
also its barely week 1 of the season 
Right but it’s going to take 9 more weeks to finish and actually 11+ since everyone is also going to want to craft their bis weapon. They designed it to be frontloaded and look really good to start then they draaaaag it out for another 3 months.
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As is tradition.
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Anyone know how long it usually takes PvE players to get fully geared?
Oh theres no dichotomy, sucks to make that choice. Its more that im fine with speed of gearing. The free weapon debscle seems more like an oversight tbh.
Ill wait for free weap on my lock but craft it once i got 4 set done.
On my sham i made a 1 hander tho.
Idk to me waiting 3 months until everyone is fully geared and we see how the meta shapes up with full scaling seems excessively long. I guess you could say well seasons are 6 months so it’s fine and that’s true relative to the season but in an absolute sense 3 months to finish gearing and have everyone at peak power is a pretty long time.
With blood tokens youll be fully @636 ilvl + way before then. The 639 pieces will come in slower but the difference is marginal at that point.
I just dont mind with the overall speed of it with blood tokens on top.
Obviously if you skip free weapon thats 3 weeks delay, which does suck.
Depends on if tryhards or not. Spamming mythic plus can get you super juiced first week for the past couple expacs. But fully mythic kitted out takes a while longer than that.
To add to this if you do pve at all, you can get 60 of the highest pve crests and craft a pve ilvl 636 this week now that M+ is out if you wanted another extra piece this week.
Personally I don’t think M+ should be considered when discussing if PvP gearing is in a good spot. In fact I’d say the fact it’s even being considered points to there being a problem.
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I’m basically already fully geared by normal raid standards. Havent bothered with anything heroic ilvl yet since M+ hasn’t opened
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