What?
What did I say that made you so upset?
There was a mourneblade made prior to Shadowlands. Frostmourne was even reconned in SL to be created there instead of the Burning Legion. Shadowmourne was the sister blade of Frostmourne and Arthas even says the wielder is basically no better than him.
Shadowlands screwed the scourge lore up completely.
Shadowmourne doesnât consume the soul of the user, it does fragment the souls of those it hits though.
Ashbringer itself didnât shatter frostmourne. It was the light through whatâs his name. Shadowmourne is not a mourneblade. Just has mourne in the name. Ashbringer is great. Itâs no where near as iconic as frostmourne.
Yup 100%
They said it was a mistake giving players corrupted Ashbringer then we get the legion weapons.
Having everyone be able to transmog a scuffed version of frostmourne on their back feels bad too. Anniversary event would have been a good time for them to just give it to us as a cosmetic.
Tirion? He called upon the light to get him out of that block of ice he was in. âLight grant me one final Blessing! Give me the strength⊠to shatter these bondsâ. Thats all he called upon the light to do. He then used Ashbringer to shatter Frostmourne.
Shadowmourne is the sister blade to Frostmourne. Its a Mourneblade, it is engraved with some of the same runes that Frostmourne has, and it shatters fragments of the soul. Arthas even talks about you not being any different than he is, and how you are making a blade to be your prison.
Its the scourge crest⊠Its been that since WC3, its been on banners since vanilla. Why should this feel bad to anyone unless you are going off of incomplete information?
I havenât given any flying farts about the lore since the embarrassing trash fire that is Shadowlands. Give me a 1:1 frostmourne replica in the trading post, or even in the shop. Iâd gladly buy it to spite the people who constantly whine for us to not have anything cool.
Itâs a sister blade reforged from the broken mourneblade. Itâs not an actual mourneblade. Yes canonically the Primus already made multiple mourneblades, however the player character does not find out any of that until shadowlands. So we werenât aware how to make mournblades when we crafted shadowmourne. Crazy stuff I know.
Legion Remix is around the corner.
There is a chance Blizzard could do something cool (assuming our Remix artifact is the artifact weapons this time) and have Blades of the Fallen Prince have an on-use effect to form a 2-hander (because 2-hander frost is a thing again) and itâs Frostmourne with multiple artifact skins.
Also hereâs hoping they let us unlock Mage Tower appearances with Remix.
The reason is simple, itâs because frost is a dw spec despite the naysayers.
2h frost was always bs aside with very specific weapons during very specific times.
Itâs time to drop the subject, frost is designed for dw, if you donât like that, go unholy.
No itâs not because frostmourne is just too iconic, because otherwise we wouldnât have gotten artifact weapons in the first place, itâs because frost is a dw spec.
Also, 5 years? Legion was in 2016, which is 8 years ago
This is insane levels of cope you only see on the classic forums
Are you talking about 2h or dw?
Because dw has always been objectively the right choice for frost, aside in very specific cases and situations.
They even outright stated that frost was supposed to be the dw spec, which is why the artifact weapon were⊠Dw weapons, would you look at that.
But I mean it doesnât take a genius to see this, even if it wasnât outright stated just looking at frost dk tooltips and circumstantial evidence you can clearly see a theme that favors the usage of dw as opposed to 2h.
I reported them. Wildly inappropriate and undeserved response.
Shadowmourne is not forged from a broken Mourneblade.
There is 3 mourneblades that we know of Frostmourne, Shadowmourne and Kingsmourne. The Primus only created 1 of those.
Mourneblades are just connected to the maw and domination magic as well as shattering the souls (or consuming) of those you strike while wielding it with rage. Shadowmourne did all of that. It was basically the axe version of Frostmourne.
We would be the ones putting our power into it to help forge it. It wouldnât be the same since theres no domination magic involved like the original.
LK also used it to freeze Tirion in a block of ice. Frost is a big part of it as well. Its literally in the name.
Shadowmourne is 100% a Mourneblade. Its powered by souls. Did you never do the quest to get one? Gathering the souls was a huge part of that and the proc on the weapon itself is soul powered.
From the wiki
- Mourneblades are a special type of incredibly powerful runeblades associated with the Maw and the Jailer. They are engraved with Domination runes, and are capable of shattering souls into fragments when wielded with rage.*
Shadowmourne is covered in domination runes, used fragments of ice that have remnants of the power from Frostmourne in them (i.e. the Maw and the Jailer) and is explicitly capable of shattering souls into fragments from the text in its proc.
Shadowmourne
âYour melee attacks have a chance to drain a Soul Fragment granting you 1 Strength. When you have acquired 10 Soul Fragments you will unleash Chaos Bane, dealing 5 Shadow damage split between all enemies within 15 yards and granting you 7 Strength for 10 sec.â
Also, we still have Blades of the Fallen Prince. Literally a recrafted Frostmourne in a different shape.
If lore is the thing holding it back, they could always just give us âFauxmourneâ a powerless sword that just happens to be crafted to look like Frostmourne.
With how hard they retconned all the lore in SLands, I strongly doubt lore is actually the reason we havenât gotten a frostmourn transmog. My guess is itâs either not on their radar or they are intentionally waiting for a more financially beneficial time to release it.
You realize Frost didnât even utilize both weapons in the attacks until well into ICC right? Frost could DW, but so could Blood and Unholy at the time. Unholy could DW into Cataclysm even. DW Unholy was actually meta at the start of Cata because it would proc the living sht out of Sudden Doom.
Frost was never designed as a DW spec. It had one talent in the Frost tree during Wrath that made DW a little better for Frost than it was for Blood or Unholy. Until they put in Threat of Thassarian, and that initial talent was just to improve the hit chance. Being DW only didnât happen until Legion. And they immediately brought 2H back afterward. The limitation only happened because they were limited to 1 Artifact weapon per spec. Fury Warriors and WW Monks also got limited down to 1 weapon choice during that time and had their options restored after Legion.
Frost might be in the name, but it really wasnât Frost based at all. He used it as a conduit, or how to direct his power.
If you look at what Frostmourne did, it ate souls. It would make Arthasâ extremely weak if he couldnât do anything without it. Itâs not like anyone could take it from him since it would be instant death anyways. But that would mean Blood Queen Lanaâthel would be stronger than the lich king since she encased a few groups of people in ice without even a runeblade. Just showed up and poof, 90% of the people are in ice.
It was just Arthasâ power, it just looks cool.
The real debate is if Frostmourne is even a 2h weapon. I think itâs closer to being a 1 to 1.5 lh weapon which exists. You can use it with 1 hand, and get a little bit of a grip with the second for more power. He wears it on his hip, and the grip would have to be looked at to see if there is even room for his other hand to be a proper 2h weapon.
Ah, the Machine Gun Unholy. I remember it well.
I also remember the TENTACLE SWORD DROPPED FROM DEATHWING SCALED WITH UNHOLY MASTERY!
i dont know why we never got a mog from it
Go read the novel.
There is at least 4 times when it is EXPLICITLY stated that it was frostmourne or the power of frostmourne doing something ice/cold/frost related.
It even calls out how Arthas felt PAIN from how cold to the touch it was even as a Death Knight who NO LONGER FELT THE COLD.