Let me preface this with me acknowledging that I really am just complaining in a post. Is this necessary? no. Am I still pissed off? ye.
Okay so a full clear of a 5 mask horrific vision of Stormwind or Orgrimmar will give you an item level 470 piece of gear with some tier of corruption on it. Cool. This is an excellent reward for a difficult piece of pve content. So i’ve now cleared 5 mask stormwind once and 5 mask orgrimmar 3 times, the rewards I’ve gotten haven’t been great but it’s random, so just gotta keep running it. I open the chest and I get a 460 Azerite Chest piece… bruh moment.
Getting a heroic piece of gear is rather underwhelming. I really think 5 mask runs either shouldnt give you azerite, or at least give useful azerite. If a player is clearing 5 mask runs, I highly doubt said player needs a 460 piece still. Make the azerite 480, or maybe even a 475 mid tier piece like the ones from Carapace of N’Zoth and N’Zoth the corruptor.
I already have the heroic transmog set from Ny’Alotha but it feels like extra salt in the wound that despite the gear being heroic level it still has the raid finder transmog lol. Make the transmog match the item level of the gear or perhaps make the azerite gear from a 5 mask run be a different way to get a mythic transmog.
My main point, is don’t cuck me out of 470 corruption. k thx.
Azerite only comes in 15 item level bumps. So since HVs are capped at 470 gear, you can’t get 475 azerite, therefore 460 is the highest available level.
I agree though, azerite pieces need to be removed, and replaced with rings or weapons instead. Having pieces that cannot corrupt in a loot pool where one of their “changes” was automatic corruption, sounds rather dumb.
There’s 460 azerite from Heroic bosses, and Heroic N’zoth/Carapace drop 470, which when fully empowered is 475.
There’s 475 azerite from Mythic raid bosses, and Mythic N’zoth/Carapace drop 485, which when fully empowered is 490. There’s no 495 azerite gear anywhere.
Yes there are exceptions because of how the 15 item level jumps scale. For example most azerite gear only comes in 15 item level jumps – 430, 445, 460, 475. But this tier, N’zoth/Carapace drop +10 higher item level stuff. So in those cases, it’s 440, 455, 470, 485 azerite pieces. Probably why the PVP box has odd scaling, to keep it in line with the PVE equivalent pieces.
Azerite pieces from Carapace of N’zoth and N’zoth himself are +10 ilvls above those you can get off other bosses. So you can have a 470 azerite piece (before the +5 ilvl upgrade).
Just make it so that the azerite piece from a 5 mask run is a 470. It is stupid to get a 460 from something that is meant to give you a 470.
475 azerite pieces are the standard ilvl for mythic.
Unless you are counting the +5 ilvl boost in that.
I don’t think you understand the argument here. You said that since HV does not drop 475 gear it cannot drop 475 Azerite. The PvP box does not drop 460 gear, but DOES drop 460 Azerite in the 455 “bracket”. There IS a history of the game rounding up and actually has consistently rounded up in all “boxes” besides the HV one since the M+ chest also rounded up back when Azerite could drop from the tuesday box.
Yes, general rule, 15 item level jumps. Last two bosses throw that off, but they’re the only 2 sources in all of BFA’s azerite pieces to do that, so they’re the exception, not the rule.
So you think it is fair to get a 460 piece (which is 3 mask run ilvl reward) from doing 5 masks, which should give you a 470 piece?
470 ilvl azerite pieces do exist, they come from heroic Carapace and N’zoth. Surely a 5 mask run should give you a 470 azerite piece as well. Also you only get a 470 from the first 5 mask run you do a week, and you can’t get rings, trinkets and weapons from them.
I do understand the argument. I also don’t think something that can be soloed is going to provide the same item level as something that requires 20 people working together well.
That might not be “fair” but that’s how this game works. 470 is close enough for something that only requires 1 person, instead of 20.
But I’ll amend my earlier responses, and agree that the azerite from HVs should be 470 to match heroic N’zoth – because heroic is not the highest tier.
Wow, five masks seriously drop 460 azerite? Who thought that was a good idea? After breezing through my 4-mask last night I’m planning to make my first attempt at a 5-mask tonight, glad I read this beforehand so I could temper my reward expectations.
No. M+ and Heroic Raiding served us a stepping stone towards Mythic Raiding and should not reward Mythic Raid quality. Same goes with this so called bonus Horrific Vision. It’s not good to have Mythic Raiding quality loots outside Mythic Raiding.
Wrathion, Maut and Skitra are bonus bosses. Those who beat Normal Raiding could easily access/beat Heroic Wrathion, Maut and Skitra. Those who beat normal Heroic Raiding could easily access/beat Mythic Wrathion, Maut and Skitra. We got bonus loots already from these Bosses and they are good.
I also agree that Heroic Carapace and N’zoth could drop a somewhat Mythic Raiding quality loots becoz of its complex difficulty. But the good thing is, its Mythic Raiding loot counterparts have one notch up higher.
What we dont like is to acquire Mythic Raiding quality set outside of Mythic Raiding. I dont think Horrific Vision 5-masks deserve to have Mythic Raiding quality loots. It just open a way to abuse the system… getting Mythic Raiding Quality loots without stepping to Mythic Raiding. If this happens, I would skip the whole Mythic Raiding and just strive and run to complete 5-masks Horrific Visions OVER AND OVER.
