4th specialisation for monk

[Meliran-zuljin]

@Fabul-thrall

What you described, as in being in melee, taken advantage of interrupts, dealing damage from melee, etc, can ABSOLUTELY be the theme for Crane style/Chi’ji Fistweaving spec. You get what you want

It’s not spec specific though. It’s the monk class as a whole?

@Fabul-thrall

That right there is what we call a straw-man argument where you present an opposing position as a warped, extreme version of itself often suggesting that all aspects take on that level of extremism

Lol forums…
Saying:

@Meliran-zuljin

akin

Isn’t making an extreme opposite opinion. I’m making an hyperbole to demonstrate how ridiculous those things sound to me. Of course it’s an exageration and I’m not implying that anyone is asking for this.

Let’s be real here. If we are adding this new spec for monk tomorow, what do we need to do?

First, the class tree: if this was another melee spec, it’s fair to say that we wouldn’t need to touch it. But we’re talking about a range spec here so changes are required. We have two realistic choices here (or a combination of both)

One: we make space for the new spec. Adding branches and paths to make the spec mesh in the class.

Two: change some nodes for this new spec specifically. Much like the new statue node that changes depending on the spec.

Like I said previously, I am against any big changes to the class tree after a whole expansion of junk tree. Also, 4 specs within a tree hasn’t been demonstrated to be a huge success if we look at the druid class tree.

So this leaves us with option 2. Which replaces nodes for our new spec. Either making new spells or adapting existing ones. But then again, why add one spec that is so different than the others that it needs those custom nodes while none of the other specs needs these?

For the spec tree in itslef. For me, it sounds like mw would be gutted no matter how you put it. Creating new specs and taking from others usually puts the old spec into a precarious position. Demo lock never really healed from demon hunter taking over metamorphosis.

@Fabul-thrall

Take a look at Hunters with ranged Marksmanship and Beat Mastery specs vs the Survival specs.

Sure but notice how they changed the spec completely instead of creating a new one. Why didn’t they create a 4th hunter spec for melee?

@Fabul-thrall

Holy and Disc priests are one example of two specs that whole both belong to the priests they have worked to differentiate them on the spec level. The theme of priest overlaps but the specs themselves utilize different styles/spells of healing to perform relatively the same job.

You know that some disc priests are asking for a 4th spec too right? To have the shield gameplay separated from the atonement gameplay. Like here, this would gut atonement disc to oblivion, but hey why shouldn’t we do it?
Why not a 4th priest spec that is melee while we’re at it? (Oh wait, maybe this is paladin?)

[Hyouriku-windrunner]

Without the sarcasm it was a good post.
You made me want to theorycraft two possible spec variations, just for fun.
I think the current Mistweaver shouldn’t be changed much. Chi-Ji feels for me a bit more natural to how the soec currently plays (I enjoy all variations though).

Yulon has the potential to become another interesting healer or tank build that works differently. But I rather see the monk as melee as well. You are right that it can create issues to create a ranged spec. There is just too much that would require a whole new iteration to fit the fantasy - even if it’s not impossible to do
It would add more difficulty to balancing it all, though…

[Ralecgos-sargeras]

I’d love for Monks to get a ranged caster DPS for a 4th spec based on Chi-Ji the red crane. This would make Monk similar to Druid in some ways. I’ve always loved the idea of Crackling Jade Lightning being a main rotational spell since it looks and sounds so unique.

I imagine this spec would attack with chi based magic, crackling jade lightning, and some mist based attacks.

Heck, even a ranged caster support DPS would be fine with me too. Similar to Augmentation Evoker, since Chi-Ji seems to have a support based personality.

All that being said above, I’d also be okay with Fistweaver moving to a 4th spec separating from caster Mistweaver completely. This Fistweaver spec would be a support DPS. NOT a healer spec.

I’d want this 4th Fistweaver support spec to play differently than Windwalker and Mistweaver of course. Make it themed around Chi-Ji more heavily to round out the 4 Celestials. Call this spec Chidancer or something idk.

[Lahil-wyrmrest-accord]

I really hope they do this one day. I think it would fit well.