40-Man TBC Raids

Once TBC Classic is finished with its run, and assuming they decide to do something like Season of Mastery with TBC, would anyone else be interested in doing TBC content that was tuned up for 40 players like vanilla was?

**EDIT
Could probably make Karazhan and Zul’Aman into 20 man raids like Zul’Gurub and AQ20

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This would go terribly. Its hard enough to fill 25 man raids, 40 man raids were just terrible to begin with.

I’d go the opposite direction and say make all raids 10 man with a 5 man option.

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Lmao no way dude

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Internal screaming.

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The tbc raid is a bit tight on comp which I dont like.

I wish I could bring some more to the raid. Like a scalable 25-30 raid size. Make the boss strongers if we bring more

imagine spreading for KT’s gravity lapse…

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Wouldent be that bad. Remember the op mentioned scaling up to 40 man not just allowing 40 people and being done.

Part of scaling up is picking how to scale up a mechanic as such to scale up a spread mechanic you need to take into account room this can be seen in scaling up 10 to 25 man in wrath. As such grav lapse would likly start at half or 70 percent of its current value than double from there per jump like it dose now. so you would expect two people to exist in each spot as such you gain room at no cost if 50 percent (current damage but over two people) but at 70 percent (140 percent over two people) you gain room but take more damage that is balanced out via more healers.another option would be making each jump scale up the damage by 50 percent vs 100 percent so you again make small clusters but damage is higher to account for the greater amount of healers as damage must be higher or else your not scaling the raid up to 40 fairly but only adding dps slots.

The big problem is adding tank spots as fights would have to be redone a fair bit to add spots to make 4 tanks have a reason to exist unless we further want to make less tank raid spots to further make 5 mana have more tabk shortages as less tanks playing as no raid spots.

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But it wouldn’t be a matter of “scaling up or down a mechanic” you would need to completely redesign raid dungeons to fit 40 players.

One reason Wrath Naxx was so easy is that some mechanics stopped being a problem because there was half the players as normal in the same sized room

That was due to it being blizzards first attempt at scaling up and down mechanics not due to the room sizes. There is quite a few 25 man abs even 10 man fights with rooms just as large as naxx rooms. Naxx blizzard dint scale stuff well as it was a first attempt and mt exact point in my post. When stuff is scaled correctly it’s not a issue at all to fit 40 in a 25 man space even if meant to be hard to fit 25 there before. If scaled wrong eg just telling people to add 15 more in without changing the mechanic than yes ie becomes a issue but that’s not scaling the raid up that’s just adding people something entirely different.

There is no room that can fit 10 players for that fight that can’t fit 40 when mechanics for that fight are correctly adjusted for that player amount.

Okay well obviously Blizzard has TARDIS technology so I’ll leave you to it

It’s not rocket sience there is nothing that prevents a player from standing on a player in fact it’s a common thing in raiding for anyone that has ever raided before stacking is a basic skill.

If the fight requires being spread 10 yards all it means to scale 10 players to 40 is making it so having stacks of 4 is acceptable with damage being higher but not one hit kills to account for the greater healer amount. Nothing in the room needs to change only the mechanics.

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people already cry about finding 25 players, 40 will be a s*** show

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Could also just remove every single mechanic too

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You could but again that is not what the op asked he asked for the fights to be scaled not to make target dummy’s but do keep showing your lack of basic understand of what is being asked for.

I don’t miss having to keep a roster of 8 shaman and 10+ warriors to be competitive enough to effectively recruit people. And you had to constantly recruit, far more than now.

People actually recruit more than 2 classes in tbc but in classic it was much more selective.

Anyone pining for 40 man raiding obviously didn’t run a guild in classic

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well, it is a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE idea,

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Hell no. I don’t ever want to do 40m again. It’s too crowded and there’s too much competition for gear. 25 is a good cap given all the class build diversity.

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Personally no I don’t like TBC raids that much.

Just spent the last few months trying to run SSC with 23/25…. I don’t think so

TBC SoM would be an even bigger meme than Classic SoM already is.

I cant imagine more than like 1-2 raiding guilds in TBC SoM lol