+40% health was also a +40%

[Nicholasfury-dalaran]

increase to % health healing abilities. This means that dps specs that have things like soothing darkness, deathstrike, dark pact, etc all scaled extremely well whereas things like regrowth, lesser healing wave, and word of glory (ret) did not benefit.

This has created edge cases where some classes are more tanky than actual tanks in PvP.

Hopefully the self healing gets addressed soon, as it’s sort of wacky to see some DPS specs out healing healers occasionally.

[Bigreptile-bleeding-hollow]

If only there were patch notes out detailing changes to pvp healing

[Galabris-alexstrasza (Galabris)]

Hear hear. I too am in favor of removing PvP and having those dev hours reinvested into more PvE content (namely dungeons). Removing PvP will permanently address any current and potential future PvP issues so a very good solution for Blizzard. Big ROI. The bestest ROI.

[Nicholasfury-dalaran]

@Bigreptile-bleeding-hollow

If only there were patch notes out detailing changes to pvp healing

If only those patch notes addressed this issue.

[Bigreptile-bleeding-hollow]

@Kaivax

Death Knight

• Anti-Magic Shell absorption amount reduced by 25% in PvP combat.
• Will of the Necropolis damage reduction reduced by 50% in PvP in combat.
• Anti-Magic Barrier increase to Anti-Magic Shell duration and amount absorbed has been reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
• Abomination Limb will no longer pull individual enemy players more than once over its duration (was every 4 seconds).
• Improved Death Strike increase to Death Strike’s healing has been reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
• Frost
  • Death Strike’s healing increased based on recent damage is reduced by 50% if the damage was dealt by players or their pets.
• Unholy
  • Death Strike’s healing increased based on recent damage is reduced by 50% if the damage was dealt by players or their pets.
    • Developers’ notes: Death Knight survivability has been substantially higher than we’re comfortable with, so we’re targeting several aspects of their defensive kit. We feel that with these adjustments, Death Knights will maintain durability with options to counterplay defensively. Additionally, the multiple grips from Abomination Limb created scenarios of unfun gameplay with minimal counterplay in PvP. We’re changing this talent to be able to pull in a unique player in once per talent usage. We believe this change will allow the talent to be an attractive talent to pick while maintaining counterplay options for opponents.

LGTM

[anon91571360]

Since PvPs inception, it hasn’t and WILL never be balanced. There will always be a forced meta like they do in OW. It’s obvious they do this on purpose, they have all the data we don’t. They know what is being picked, what is too strong, what is overperforming class wise and the latter. They thought we were too stupid to find pvp vendors an expansion ago.

[Nicholasfury-dalaran]

@Bigreptile-bleeding-hollow

@Kaivax

Death Knight

• Anti-Magic Shell absorption amount reduced by 25% in PvP combat.
• Will of the Necropolis damage reduction reduced by 50% in PvP in combat.
• Anti-Magic Barrier increase to Anti-Magic Shell duration and amount absorbed has been reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
• Abomination Limb will no longer pull individual enemy players more than once over its duration (was every 4 seconds).
• Improved Death Strike increase to Death Strike’s healing has been reduced by 50% in PvP combat.
• Frost
  • Death Strike’s healing increased based on recent damage is reduced by 50% if the damage was dealt by players or their pets.
• Unholy
  • Death Strike’s healing increased based on recent damage is reduced by 50% if the damage was dealt by players or their pets.
    • Developers’ notes: Death Knight survivability has been substantially higher than we’re comfortable with, so we’re targeting several aspects of their defensive kit. We feel that with these adjustments, Death Knights will maintain durability with options to counterplay defensively. Additionally, the multiple grips from Abomination Limb created scenarios of unfun gameplay with minimal counterplay in PvP. We’re changing this talent to be able to pull in a unique player in once per talent usage. We believe this change will allow the talent to be an attractive talent to pick while maintaining counterplay options for opponents.

LGTM

[Bigreptile-bleeding-hollow]

None of them are outhealing healers.

[Nicholasfury-dalaran]

Turns out they WERE outliers that needed nerfs.

Weird.

Good to see a lot of these addressed.