3100 Score, Zero Invites in 14: The Fury Warrior’s Curse

I sit at my desk, shoulders slumped, eyes bloodshot from hours of applying to keys. My voice, once eager and hopeful, has grown hoarse from calling out into the void—answered only by silence.

I’ve queued all afternoon.

Not a single invite.

Not one.

Is it my score? 3100.

Not bad, right?

Is it my damage? I sim fine. Logs are good. Rotation tight.

Then maybe it’s my class. Maybe people just… don’t want Warriors.

Fury Warriors, specifically.

It’s hard not to take it personally.

While other specs are out there getting snatched up the moment they sign up—brought in for their Blessings, Brezes, Totems, and Shiny Golden Buttons—I remain in the shadows of Dornogal, another face in the corner, whispering “please, just one invite.”

Every application is a quiet prayer. Every rejection chips away a little more at my spirit. Until finally, I’m not even disappointed anymore—just numb.

Watching other specs zip past me into dungeons, into content, into relevance, I can’t help but wonder: Do Fury Warriors even belong in this game anymore?

We bring no lust. No brez. No off-heals. No strong utility. And despite this, we don’t even have the damage to justify our existence. A 4-second stun and the hope that Shockwave makes us “useful” is not a design. It’s a participation medal.

I look at the sky—grey and starless—and I feel like someone living in the American West in the 60s, head bowed, dreams buried beneath layers of dust and disillusionment. Just waiting… for what? A future that may never come? A patch note that’ll never arrive?

I’m not being melodramatic. I’m being honest.

Because this isn’t just about numbers. It’s about identity. It’s about standing in line for hours, only to be told you don’t matter. Not enough to bring. Not worth the slot. Not worth the risk.

I’ve prayed. I’ve optimized. I’ve coped. But the truth is—I’m tired.

I’m tired of seeing Ret Paladins and Enhancement Shamans and Unholy DKS get snapped up while I sit alone in group finder, feeling like a relic from a bygone expansion. I’m tired of explaining my spec like I’m justifying a crime. I’m tired of pretending this doesn’t hurt.

Fury Warriors are not asking to be kings.

We just want to be “invited to the table”.

Let us cleave like it’s 2025. Let us feel “wanted”, not tolerated. Give us a reason to queue with hope, not dread.

Because right now?

Right now, it feels like I’ve bowed my head so long, I’ve forgotten how to lift it.

And all I wanted…

…was to play the game I love.

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Every single time I read one of these posts it’s confusing. The game (like most every other game) has been like this since its inception. Make friends and don’t pug. Or pug, and accept the fact you’re a dps in a sea of dps and lemming group leaders will follow the meta even though it has no bearing on their level 5 key. And if you really don’t want to do any of the above, play tank and get insta invites. You have choices to avoid all of this.

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I get where you’re coming from, and trust me—I’ve tried.

I did look for push groups. I’ve reached out, I’ve posted, I’ve DM’d. And do you know what I got back?

“Sorry, we’re not looking for Warriors.”
“Do you have a tank spec?”
No response at all.

It’s not that I refuse to make friends or that I’m unwilling to put in the effort—it’s that Fury Warriors are simply not wanted in most serious (or even semi-serious) groups right now. I could have 3100 IO, perfect logs, and still get passed over just because of the spec I chose to play.

And sure, I could reroll a meta class, or tank, or whatever. But I love Fury. I love Warrior. That should count for something in a game that’s supposed to be about playing what you enjoy. Right now, it feels like I’m being punished for that choice.

This post isn’t about whining—it’s about pointing out a real design issue that makes certain specs feel invisible, no matter how well they’re played.
You say I have choices. And I do.

I chose to try and make this spec work.
I chose to push.
I chose to hope I’d be invited.

But at some point, if no one is taking you seriously—not because of you, but because of the class you play—it starts to wear you down.

That’s all this post is about.

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You’ve hit the pug wall where people are too hyperfocused on the meta.

The rule for off-meta specs is to make your own groups as you can’t decline yourself from a key, in the process make friends to play with in the future.

Then there are the alternatives, prot or arms which have a higher view in the eyes of pugs, assuming you’re not a one trick.

EDIT: OP has chat GPT written all over it writing style wise.

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Grouping with friends is even worse because you are bringing down people you know. Especially if they are competitive. The false pretenses, like congratulating someone with downs for doing 2.5 mil overall when everyone is doing 3.5-5 mil…

So, you want to be competitive in a game that favors rerolling at the upper most levels, but you’re too stubborn to even switch from fury to arms to improve your performance? The mental gymnastics people go through in order to choose mediocrity is astounding.

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That’s the thing though, a good fury warrior plays the role of Priority funnel damage. So a good one isn’t exactly a hinderance for the group, much like SV as PL, having a solid niche where you’re the best to focus your main target on the high health dangerous mobs while the mooks just die to passive cleave does end up saving a group more time overall as groups with next to no priority damage focus end up spending more time on those priority mobs as their damage is lower on it causing a net time loss overall.

Arms fulfils a similar niche too while also having some extra AoE burst that isn’t capped like fury’s is.

There’s no doubt warriors need a class tree rework that enables them to actually talent into any utility we can provide that we’re otherwise not able to path through right now due to mandatory throughput nodes being forced on us. But M+ is easily played off meta with the right people who share the same goal, if that means you play different specs within your class to meet a wall your group is experiencing then so be it.

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Dont expect changes, even here in the thread will come some people saying that things are not that bad, or something awful like “Just play Arms” knowing very well that in gameplay wise Arms is insufferable. If even the playerbase think that imagine what the devs think. This class will always be bad, we had to deal with it like we do every season. Or play something else.

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Idk what you’re smoking, but Arms is easily one of the most fun specs in this game playstyle wise despite what a few noisy people in these forums will spout.
The fact that it’s less likely to opt for spamming the same attack until the cows come home and you need to plan the next few attacks in advance while reacting to procs gives the gameplay a breath of fresh air from raging blow spam pre 35%.

Your echo chamber =/= “the playerbase”.
Parse popularity of a spec is also heavily based on what spec’s are tuned higher in any given season for the content.

Thanks to prove my point, no matter what people will defend mediocrity. Even give a bad advice like change class spec even when they know that some people will hate that spec, and it is just because of that they are vocal about the class they love. So to simplify people will have your favorite spec and they want to play with that favorite spec, the worse thing you can do is say to play a spec that they did not enjoy, people want to have fun, and some of Fury mains dislike very much the arms gameplay and will not have fun. And Fury mains are not having fun right now because we have that felling that we are bringing the team down and playing arms is just a nail in the coffin.

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Thanks for proving my point I guess…

Don’t assume I would. I switched from warrior to unholy dk so keep my name out ya mouth /wiilsmithslap.

Hate to tell you this, but you don’t run keys high enough to make unholy matter. You played yourself.

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Oh you’re one of those gotcha weepeen.

I main Fury Warrior, and only play with one or two other friends, so usually we PUG the last couple group members. We only ever run our own keys and never apply for other groups. I do the same on my Paladin that is prot spec and my friend plays healer. Now, granted I don’t play every day so my IO is very low, but my experience so far has been a pretty fun one.

Is Fury where it could be right now? That’s up for debate, but honestly if you think this spec is dead go ask Noxiv for their opinion on it. That’s not me being passive aggressive here. That’s me saying that if you put your own group together and find people you enjoy playing with, you’ll never pug again. Regardless of what spec you like playing.

Make your own group. As DPS it’s helpful to run your own key to get done the level you want invites for. If you’ve only done +13 and want to get into +14, complete your own +14 key so a 14 is now on your “resume”. Its better this way anyways to make sure you can do the next level up and not worry about being the reason for bricking someone else’s key.

My hunter only had ++7s and was not getting invites to any 10s to start my mythic vault. Ran my own keys and got all mythic slots filled. A little slow filling at times cause I was picky and my raider io resume was still showing 7s, but it was definitely faster than sitting in town waiting for an invite.

EDIT: And an additional perk to forming your own group is you can build your ideal comp. For my hunter I was borrowing a top hunters talents and I liked his high key push comp - rogue, fury war, range hunter, MW, guard Druid. You could look at something similar for the synergies.

God forbid we play the spec we enjoy. Arms has the benefit of chunkier, consistent aoe. Something fury warriors have BEGGED for, and the brief moment in time we had it, we got gutted; absolutely eviscerated, all because our INITIAL burst is so big. The fall off even at that point was real, but somehow (presumably because the devs fundamentally don’t understand or interact with fury at all) it was overlooked.

Adjust or remove the target capping nonsense and we’ll look a lot better. Or, you know, give us bloodlust already.

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