You’re saying then that the Goblins won’t get a reskin through the AR system?
You see, those are actually advanced Elven tankettes powered by Azerite and crewed by a single one of the Silver Covenant’s finest.
You’re saying then that the Goblins won’t get a reskin through the AR system?
They are. Vulpera.
Seems that some complaints would be a lot reduced if Blizz brings blue eyed blood elf to Alliance, isn’t it? Even complaints no related to them.
Impressive… I highly doubt that the demand for he would be so big if void elves were pale-white skin.
Mecagnomes for gnomes. Our elvish allied race is the ren’dorei. Its not a correlated theme.
They are. Vulpera.
You know thats not what I mean.
Both make sense? Not seeing what the issue is. Both are people the Horde are allied/working with.
You said “parent” race. When you look at most of the others, they are “offshoots” or customization of a parent race, which is what I thought you were getting at. Vulpera, in game, are completely unique as a race and aren’t really related to anything else in game. Yes, they mechanically use goblin skeletons, but that’s not what I’m talking about.
The Jinyu use night elf skeletons/animations. Would you say Night Elves and Jinyu are basically the same thing to the degree that highmountain tauren are just tauren with antlers?
You know thats not what I mean
But that is literally all that matters.
AR races are generally based on races we have in game. The only real exception was Kul Tiran.
You said “parent” race. When you look at most of the others, they are “offshoots” or customization of a parent race, which is what I thought you were getting at. Vulpera, in game, are completely unique as a race and aren’t really related to anything else in game. Yes, they mechanically use goblin skeletons, but that’s not what I’m talking about.
Thats fine that is what YOU are talking about.
It is not what I am talking about.
When I say “parent race” I am referring to the race that the AR is borrowing from. In this cause, the Vulpera are borrowing from Goblins. Goblins are the “parent race” of Vulpera.
You can’t take my words then apply your own meaning to them.
The Jinyu use night elf skeletons/animations. Would you say Night Elves and Jinyu are basically the same thing to the degree that highmountain tauren are just tauren with antlers?
I don’t know what relevance this has to the conversation.
2017 Alliance: I hope they do more stuff with gnomes!
2019 Alliance: 3% of the player base are gnomes why are you giving us mechagnomes?!
Thats fine that is what YOU are talking about.
It is not what I am talking about.
When I say “parent race” I am referring to the race that the AR is borrowing from. In this cause, the Vulpera are borrowing from Goblins. Goblins are the “parent race” of Vulpera.
You can’t take my words then apply your own meaning to them.
Then you need to be more descriptive in the language you use if you want a specific meaning to come across. Parent can mean exactly what I thought you meant in that context, so it’s rather silly to get up in arms that you meant it in a different way. Heck, even using the phrase “borrowing from” isn’t exactly descriptive in the way you are using it.
Literally every allied race is strongly related to a core race in game in terms of lore background and appearance. Mechagnomes continue that trend, Vulpera certainly do not. If you mean that they simply use the same skeleton, then you should have been more clear.
I don’t know what relevance this has to the conversation.
It’s absolutely relevant. Jinyu are a unique race in game not related to any other race in the slightest, even though they use night elf skeletons and animations.
The question shouldn’t be why Alliance got mechagnomes, but rather why Horde didn’t get gilgoblins. Or why the Alliance didn’t get something unique like the Ankoan if the Hordge got Vulpera. Gilgoblins are related to goblins in the same way every other allied race is related to a core race, and the Vulpera are quite literally the only ones that aren’t. If you have trouble seeing why that is relevant then I can’t help you out much.
Then you need to be more descriptive in the language you use if you want a specific meaning to come across. Parent can mean exactly what I thought you meant in that context, so it’s rather silly to get up in arms that you meant it in a different way. Heck, even using the phrase “borrowing from” isn’t exactly descriptive in the way you are using it.
Literally every allied race is strongly related to a core race in game in terms of lore background and appearance. Mechagnomes continue that trend, Vulpera certainly do not. If you mean that they simply use the same skeleton, then you should have been more clear
Zandalari took from Night Elves?
Gilgoblins are related to goblins in the same way every other allied race is related to a core race, and the Vulpera are quite literally the only ones that aren’t.
Once again. Zandalari.
The amount of people actually mad over these two races is hilarious. They are allied races people. We already have orc, troll, elf, human, dran, and dwarf counterparts.
This isn’t some game breaking update lmao
Let me get this straight…
Just because somebody plays a gnome they’re automatically supposed to be happy about mechagnomes… and yet even though you’re posting on a Draenei you deny being a fan of them?
Zandalari took from Night Elves?
It’s literally in the name of pretty much every allied race that they are related to another race very closely.
Zandalari Trolls : Trolls
Highmountain Tauren : Tauren
Mag’har Orcs : Orcs
Nightborne : Night Elves
Dark Iron Dwarves: Dwarves
Void Elves: Blood Elves
Kul’tirans : Humans (yes, unique skeleton, but they are humans in game)
Lightforged Draenei : Draenei
At it’s core, they are essentially throwing adjectives onto races for most of the other allied race concepts. Now, look at the new ones.
Mechagnome: Gnome
Ok, makes sense.
Vulpera: Goblin
That doesn’t strike you as different than every other allied race? Gilgoblins makes a heck of a lot more sense if they were going to continue with that trend.
More choices on races that will probably be more popular, never hurt anyone. What is basically a reskin of any already barely played race is a terrible idea. Most of the mechagnome players will probably be made up of gnomes who just race change anyways.
It’s literally in the name of pretty much every allied race that they are related to another race very closely.
Zandalari Trolls : Trolls
Highmountain Tauren : Tauren
Mag’har Orcs : Orcs
Nightborne : Night Elves
Dark Iron Dwarves: Dwarves
Void Elves: Blood Elves
Kul’tirans : Humans (yes, unique skeleton, but they are humans in game)
Lightforged Draenei : DraeneiAt it’s core, they are essentially throwing adjectives onto races for most of the other allied race concepts. Now, look at the new ones.
Mechagnome: Gnome
Ok, makes sense.
Vulpera: Goblin
That doesn’t strike you as different than every other allied race?
Ok. Are we talking about a lore connection or skeleton connection? Because I feel like this conversation goes back and forth.
Zandalari clearly didn’t take their skeleton from darkspear trolls. Their “parent race” from a skeleton aspect are night elves.
Ok. Are we talking about a lore connection or skeleton connection? Because I feel like this conversation goes back and forth.
Zandalari clearly didn’t take their skeleton from darkspear trolls. Their “parent race” from a skeleton aspect are night elves.
I’m talking from a lore perspective, but that also ties into aesthetics (not necessarily just mechanics like skeletons and animations). The vast majority of allied races didn’t get new mechanics. That’s why “parent” is probably not the best word to use if you are only talking about asset functionality and not actual lore or race connections in game.
Vulpera are pretty much unique as of now when it comes to a “true” new race in game that’s playable, as in not closely related to another already existing race. Like I said, the others are so closely related that they literally have the core race in their name still.
What word would be better than “parent race”? It perfectly defines what I am referring to. AR are races that borrow assets from another race so they can be designed and implemented quicker. That is the entire reason they are ARs and not a full fledged race.
Lore is just the tie in. Being able to borrow assets is ultimately why they are picked.
There is only 1 AR with no “parent race” as far as AR design. That is kul tirans.
Gnomes are awesome!!!
… but foxes are better. Horde win this round
They are tied to character creation and they’re being marketed as new races and interpreted by the playerbase as such. Thematically, they are new races.
Technically nightelves are just high elves with different ears and a different skin tone, but they’re still separate races regardless of how they could be implemented.
2017 Alliance: I hope they do more stuff with gnomes!
2019 Alliance: 3% of the player base are gnomes why are you giving us mechagnomes?!
TIL: I am the Alliance
Just because somebody plays a gnome they’re automatically supposed to be happy about mechagnomes… and yet even though you’re posting on a Draenei you deny being a fan of them?
Yes