So i am very excited to play shaman in SOD. I think the tank shaman is going to be super cool and i am happy to see some QOL changes. However 2handed shaman got no real love, and to be fair we wont have WF yet (i think?) as its 30 in classic. That being said i figure i would give some feedback thus far i have 1 thing for 2handers the **[Molten Blast] rune needs a couple of small changes for 2handers to have something in P1. first remove the threat unless you have rockbiter that is easy enough really. The second bit is add the ability for it to proc Weapon attacks(it might i have not tested). Those two things will make that a great âhybridâ rune.
Two handed spec was popular in classic but developers have stated they have no plans to add 2h runes to shamans. Also, shaman will not have wf at 25 but druids will with the rune.
Hereâs to hoping Blizz listens and gives players that want it the option to play 2handed shammy!
option to play 2handed shammy!
Youâre free to talent into 2h weapons in the enhancement tree whenever you get enough points.
Blizzard said no runes for 2h, theyâve said that since original TBC was released. Itâs never going to happen.
No, they have said that the idea is to make it like BC shaman as a guide. They added that they will listen to feedback in regards to 2H.
For Season of Discovery, Blizzard has focused Shamanâs Enhancement damage to be more focused on the Burning Crusade version, which is Dual wield focused with Lava Lash. Blizzard is listening to player feedback regarding that.
They could easily add in runes to additionally support 2H. Theyâve discussed making Smite Priest a thing even. So I would not say that there is no hope for it.
The spec is already designed with 2H in mind, but a little more support would be nice. 2H shaman already does fairly respectable damage. They just have threat and mana issues, which Shamanistic Rage will at least address the mana problem.
Oh I agree. It just seems odd that there is a talent point for 2handed yet no runes to support them.
The SoD team does seem to be listening and responding as evidenced by adding AotL to hunters in p1, so I agree there is hope. To date, however, the developer statements seem to indicate they are leaning against developing 2handed shammy in SoD.
developer statements seem to indicate they are leaning against developing 2handed shammy in SoD.
The new datamining would also confirm this.
It just seems odd that there is a talent point for 2handed yet no runes to support them.
LIkely just because if you change it, then you need to change other classes talent trees. Just a can they dont want to open probably. Also with WF and other stuff youll still be able to play 2h in pvp, which would help them since you still technically have the option.
First, I do hope they add support for 2h Sham. They said theyâre listening despite the fact they havenât made any plans for it, but I donât have high hopes that theyâll do anything before the second phase at least.
Second, I wish they would mostly design runes that could work for either 2h or dual wield. Maybe have 1 rune that leans into one or the other, but designing mostly for one version or the other (with restrictive language about âoff-handâ as they have done or even âtwo-handedâ as they might in the future) is a bad idea in my opinion. Let us enjoy the new stuff AND play how we want.
Third, if it does take a more complex rune with a lot of text to make 2h Shaman work, theyâve already shown they can do that the Warlock tank rune.
I mean yes âtechnicallyâ but having your rune slot completely useless seems to be actively discouraging it. You may have a point concerning the 2handed talent point but it seems they could just make it âincreased chance to hit with offhandâ or some such and be done with it. We will see I guess. Iâm just enjoying theorycrafting a game that has not been datamined into oblivion
Cheers!
I think the real question is who doesnât want 2h shaman? Iâm not even planning on playing horde for SoD and I want them to have it. I want a shaman with Sulfuras to windfury kill me in 1 hit. Its the ultimate elemental power class fantasy. Let people live the dream.
I dearly hope they do not discard 2 hand enhancement shaman for dual wield. Itâs what makes classic shamans unique from EVERY other expansion of enhance shamans. Itâs iconic. Shamans in lore are just like warriors on the front line, they should be able to wield a big 2 hand mace or axe and have competitive dps, while also providing mostly offensive utility and buffs to allies, as well as some defensive.
dual wielding 2h shaman!
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I normally main enhancement just for the 2h gameplay. It has always and forever will be my favorite play style. For SoD it looks like Iâm being forced into elemental, I refuse to dual weild. Really hoping they listen and give us our long awaited improvements and let us play 2h.