26 Hours Left & Blizz, You Made it Easy

Juicebox-farstriders · December 30, 2018, 10:18pm

If you say so lol

Arkimus-hyjal · December 30, 2018, 10:21pm

If it was so easy to walk away this thread wouldn’t have been necessary.

Totalycereal-bloodscalp · December 30, 2018, 10:34pm

They don’t make decisions based on whether or not the game systems are enjoyable, immersive, or entertaining anymore. They filter all their decisions based on a financial business plan that doesn’t care how the game feels to the players. The game is feeling less and less fun as time goes on as a result.

Puremallace-arthas · December 30, 2018, 10:34pm

So a bad Diablo announcement made you mad about WoW? A lot of this outrage about BofA started around that Diablo fiasco.

Totalycereal-bloodscalp · December 30, 2018, 10:36pm

It didn’t start with the diablo fiasco, it was just the latest thing that signaled to the players that the dev team is out of touch with what their customers want from their products. The proverbial straw that broke the camels back.

Velara-gilneas · December 30, 2018, 10:41pm

I did say so.

Puremallace-arthas · December 30, 2018, 10:41pm

Sooooo the Diablo dev team out of touch because they did not make a PC console version of their game means Blizzard devs on WoW are out of touch.

You are comparing Bananas and Oranges here.

Totalycereal-bloodscalp · December 30, 2018, 11:03pm

The entire corporate culture at blizzard has changed, if you don’t understand that I don’t know what to tell you.

Eret-hyjal · December 30, 2018, 11:07pm

TLDR: pathfinder reeeeeee

The next paragraphs are about diablo.

Zaranthosdk-icecrown · December 31, 2018, 1:55am

The outrage for me started back in Warlords when they said no more flying going forward probably ever. Pathfinder and the disrespect for the players has just gained downhill momentum since then.

It’s a whole host of things that all indicate a rotten inner circle within Blizzard. Now that may be entirely driven by one person leading them, or it may be a team effort of failure, or some combination caused by outside pressure from Activision, I really can’t say for sure.

What’s clear is that WoW is suffering from a direction that doesn’t line up with what the game used to be or what players actually like in a game. People are quitting, or just not playing like they used to. The culmination of strategies since WoD look like a failure. There was some marginal success in Legion but that was a frenzied addiction driven AP grind that ultimately contributed to player burnout. A lot of people just don’t want to repeat that insane grind fest again knowing the rewards likely get taken away at the end and catch up mechanics make excessive effort pointless anyway.

Pathfinder is a great example of a much earlier culture of just giving the players the middle finger and doing mostly what they wanted to do anyway, and to hell with you paying customers who think differently. Pathfinder was never a compromise, it was the illusion of giving flight back to placate a player base that rose up with torches and pitchforks looking for blood. The players got flight back at the time only to be denied flight every new expansion and forced to jump through a series of hoops to earn it back so late every expansion it was no longer rewarding or anything like flight used to be.

Some have just accepted it as something they can’t change, others eventually just quit the game because something they enjoyed is now basically gone.

Believe me, once you leave long enough it’s a lot easier to just not come back. You’ll never fool me again with a carrot on a stick like pathfinder. Flying like it used to be is dead, ruined by a petty dev team more concerned about what’s easier for them and maintaining the development cycle they want. Scaled content is the same thing, something they hope will make their job easier at the expense of what made the game the fun and successful game it was in the past.

Puremallace-arthas · December 31, 2018, 2:08am

Meanwhile everyone else is super excited for Vanilla Classic where you could not fly lol

Blizzard loses either way. If they try to appeal to the hardcore who said flying ruined WoW they make everyone else angry ;p

Velara-gilneas · December 31, 2018, 2:15am

Zaranthosdk:

Puremallace:

So a bad Diablo announcement made you mad about WoW? A lot of this outrage about BofA started around that Diablo fiasco.

The outrage for me started back in Warlords when they said no more flying going forward probably ever. Pathfinder and the disrespect for the players has just gained downhill momentum since then.

It’s a whole host of things that all indicate a rotten inner circle within Blizzard. Now that may be entirely driven by one person leading them, or it may be a team effort of failure, or some combination caused by outside pressure from Activision, I really can’t say for sure.

What’s clear is that WoW is suffering from a direction that doesn’t line up with what the game used to be or what players actually like in a game. People are quitting, or just not playing like they used to. The culmination of strategies since WoD look like a failure. There was some marginal success in Legion but that was a frenzied addiction driven AP grind that ultimately contributed to player burnout. A lot of people just don’t want to repeat that insane grind fest again knowing the rewards likely get taken away at the end and catch up mechanics make excessive effort pointless anyway.

Pathfinder is a great example of a much earlier culture of just giving the players the middle finger and doing mostly what they wanted to do anyway, and to hell with you paying customers who think differently. Pathfinder was never a compromise, it was the illusion of giving flight back to placate a player base that rose up with torches and pitchforks looking for blood. The players got flight back at the time only to be denied flight every new expansion and forced to jump through a series of hoops to earn it back so late every expansion it was no longer rewarding or anything like flight used to be.

Some have just accepted it as something they can’t change, others eventually just quit the game because something they enjoyed is now basically gone.

Believe me, once you leave long enough it’s a lot easier to just not come back. You’ll never fool me again with a carrot on a stick like pathfinder. Flying like it used to be is dead, ruined by a petty dev team more concerned about what’s easier for them and maintaining the development cycle they want. Scaled content is the same thing, something they hope will make their job easier at the expense of what made the game the fun and successful game it was in the past.

I just don’t buy xpacs or in-store items anymore, and I used to buy them all. My last xpac was WoD and it’s very likely to be the last ever.

Velara-gilneas · December 31, 2018, 2:17am

The people who are “excited” for Classic are those who would play on private servers. The rest will be tourists and most will quit after a week.

Puremallace-arthas · December 31, 2018, 2:17am

Purchased 2 level 110 upgrades…2 store mounts and obviously my monthly sub within the last few days. Oh yeah and also the collectors edition of BofA. So guess all that is like $200? give or take.

Velara-gilneas · December 31, 2018, 2:24am

Blizzard saw you coming…

Puremallace-arthas · December 31, 2018, 2:26am

I doubt they wanted me back. I was a nightmare for their forum mods way back when and personally recruited tons of people to leave when I jumped ship during Aion/Rift days.

I came back after a few years as it the drama and time definitely give you perspective.

Spinster-farstriders · December 31, 2018, 2:27am

There is zero logic to this. Telling people you are leaving doesn’t mean that leaving is difficult.

Velara-gilneas · December 31, 2018, 2:27am

But you gave them $120 for boosts (why pay to skip the game?) and $200 for the CE of this crap expac. If I were Blizzard I would love the hell out of you.

Puremallace-arthas · December 31, 2018, 2:29am

Also bought some of their stock when it was cheap and the dividends are technically paying my WoW sub right now

Velara-gilneas · December 31, 2018, 2:31am

The stock market and the real economy are separate. Grats on your dividends (if you see them) but stock market is fantasy money and only pays over the long-term, that is, if you don’t get wiped out by the big boys.