25-30% Damage Nerf For Shamans in BG's

Thank you admitting you were trolling my post and I was indeed right.

apology accepted, carry on.

Of course. Continue spreading your bs shaman lies. Good luck!

Stop trolling already, geez.

yawn.

with all the changes on the ptr and nobody knowing the final numbers on things much less having the actual gear we will have…

i mean do you actually think you have a true gauge on what the balance will actually be?
or are you just going off from phases past and generating the same nonsense takes that alot have had?

i mean really. its kinda silly that even without the final numbers on even the runes much less the gear , you somehow know that shaman need a huge damage nerf preemptively .

btw since you can read the future can you tell us what to invest in the stock market or the lotto numbers?

have you played the PTR? if it hits live servers in P4 the way it currently is, yes. it’s going to be more broken than P3 ele. the only people who don’t think ele shaman is currently giga busted are shaman players, and even then some of them admit it.

just because people sometimes kill it in a 1v1 does not mean it isn’t ruining BGs. and it’s only going to get worse. flame shock can still hit 5 targets in one GCD, spell power bonus took a nerf but that just makes WoE more attractive + still get to have the benefits of burn rune sans spell power, but SEF will give additional flame shock dmg as well as AoE root and CL spam. oh yeah and riptide feeds surge procs too now lmao, and SR is baseline.

meaning you can run tank rune, have 10% DR 30% stam 6% less crit chance baseline on top of 20% DR wall on a one min CD, all while rooting and melting the enemy team and flinging instant LBs. like, how do you not see how this will be a problem?

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im gonna fire up the ptr and see for myself.

even then i wont have the final numbers on the runes or the gear or even a broad overview of the whole of class balance.

heck diddnt they change the one back rune to making chain lightning cooldown only 50%?

i just dont think its gonna be like people are saying it is.

hard to believe people.

it took you like a month into P2 to admit that enhance was busted because you didn’t want to play the meta everyone else was playing

look at the T1 ele set lmao

cant seem to find the stats on wowhead.

whats the bonus?

and no it took me a few days after they buffed offhand damage 50% to really see it . i just diddnt post much about it cause i was playing the game and only chanced on the forums to see if anyone else had seen the problem.

so maybe 2 and a half weeks.

  • NEW S03 - Item - T1 - Shaman - Elemental 4P Bonus Your Lightning Bolt critical strikes have a 35% chance to reset the cooldown on Lava Burst and Chain Lightning and make the next Lava Burst, Chain Heal, or Chain Lightning within 10 sec instant.
    Item Set: Earthfury Eruption: 4 pieces

  • NEW S03 - Item - T1 - Shaman - Elemental 6P Bonus Lava Burst now also refreshes the duration of Flame Shock on your target back to 12 sec.
    Item Set: Earthfury Eruption: 6 pieces

they’ll be overpowered even without the tier set for reasons I stated in above post

the 6 pc is something that wont change much at all cause if they are getting the burst off youre either dead or very close to given current hp pools (we dont know if this will be the same at all btw).

the 4pc is more concerning but if someone is free casting lightning bolts on you , youre probably dead anyways so it doesnt change much.

:point_up_2: they’re going to have to change more than gear

again i will say this.

people TO THIS DAY still think of shaman from p2 being blatantly overpowered and lump in all shaman of all specs to automatically being overpowered by default.

hell you can see it in even the posts about how bad they messed up tank shaman and people asking for some relief and people saying just what i said before.

theyve kept that up even when shaman havent been anywhere near what people are spamming on the forums .

its stupid.

they wont say squat about classes that have been clearly overpowered just as much if not more than all but p2 enh shaman.

i honestly think ele shaman are very strong.

will the changes take them from what i believe to be tied for 3rd in the op scale to #1?

who knows?

all i do know is that there are 3 other ranged specs that got very good changes and are gonna be at least the same on the standings if not even more powerful.

but whatever.

I multi-class. I play Rogue, Mage, and the occasional warrior. The warrior I got full BiS for P3, but I am getting clapped by meatballs hurling in the air one-shotting me if I dare enter the team fight. The rogue does well especially if I am playing Envenom. The Mage… forget about it. I ice lance the totem hoping it drops buff, but it doesn’t. I can’t cc the shaman during decoy, slow them, stun them and they can just charge at me using frost shock hurling earth binds at me also.

unless they are very close and can make sure they have the kill , using frost shock as an opener is death vs a good mage who will just juke and poly you.

rogues can mop up most specs of shaman with ease.

on the warrior though i can tell you , if you charge in you are avoiding all that damage my enhance has to eat getting to the target.

melee suck right now in general .

This.

Unless you are playing alliance on PvP, which means you have to re-roll (and re-level).

So a chance to proc based on a chance to proc. You understand its not a 100% chance, right? Its rng on top of rng.

Its a PvE ability. No shaman is going to be hardcasting LBs for that long in PvP. And if they are, you have other problems.

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Incorrect. You frost shock > purge spam > grounding the first cast > launch earth bind if u want to save earthshock for next cast. Dead Mage. It is impossible to solo a decent shaman as a competent mage.

Lava Burst + Clightning dang near kills you, sadly.

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There is something wrong with that line. I will let you guess what it is…

I’m not certain because I’ve tried nova’ing, frostbolting, deep freezing, and by the time I try to cast polymorph he has earth shock + grounding for it and I am dead before then. Decoy totem also causes rogue combo points to drop off the shaman.

Perhaps the shaman overlapped decoy totem + FAP at same time.

yes it’s essentially a chance to get a surge proc off of a lightning bolt. I know they don’t spam lightning bolt, but if you get a surge proc lava burst and follow with chain lightning after, both of those are on CD yes? if you’re safe to hard cast wouldn’t you lightning bolt? assuming FS LB and CL on CD