First off, thank you very much for the 20 twink bracket. There’s an awesome scene these days and I’ve had tremendous fun coming back after years. I’ve subbed more accounts than ever to support myself and my server farming the gear we all want. Lots of good friends and good times.
I know 20s are in no way your focus and we’ll take what we can get compared to maxlev, but the general class balance is already so close to perfect, I hope you’d consider two points being worth your attention:
Demon hunters don’t really have a viable spec to bg with, and every other class has at least one that competes fine with the best of us.
Survival hunters with high weapons just do too much damage while being super-high mobility.
I wouldn’t want the 44 bramblestaff taken away, as it adds to the flavor and interest of having a broken weapon to grab, which has always been part of the excitement of twinking. monks and ferals with the staff are certainly fearsome foes. Still, losing to one you think “maybe if I play my cards right I could beat them next time.” That’s just not the case with high-weap surv hunters. They take out other fully geared twinks in about 3 globals, and do unhealable damage even if I, on a powerful healer, am allowed to stand freecasting my biggest healing rotation on their target while I’m completely unmolested. Both other hunter specs are extremely strong, but acceptably so, and can be counter-played in SOME way: line-of-sighting big aimed shots and what have you. Survivals are so hyper-mobile while they damage that there’s just not much to be done. If something could be done to reduce either their damage or mobility, or however y’all feel its best balanced, it would be appreciated. Maybe it would contribute to game balance in other ways too and I’d see 8 hunter teammates or enemies less often.
Thanks again, it’s been a great xpac for us so far.
Just wanted to say that unlike everyone else on the forums talking anything that has to do with twinks. You so far are the only one with a brain. The way you approached the matter was the best way to do so. Everyone else is “Ban them all, exploit this exploit that” or that fact that someone else out gears them in a MMO just makes them lose their minds. Yes i agree the 44 weapon is a bit much but stuff like that always gets some sort of nerf sooner or later. But i like the fact that you explained the issue peacefully and will deal with it until blizz gets around to a nerf. Twink or not, any player would want an op weapon it’s a MMO it’s the whole point of the game.
Awesome indeed, best Builds ever? every bracket!
The attention to details around the numerous adjustments/hotfixes has been incredible.
Easter Eggs galore.
I would love to see some balance/adjustments made to lower brackets specifically designed around spec/class efficacy too.
SV hunter must be difficult in regards to proper balance between end game and starters without this.
Bramblestaff is the equalizer, easily accessible to all.
Can’t be having 49 weapons running the show without a direct obtainable counter, right?
It makes me extremely happy to see all of the activity (all of you), along with everything beautiful that goes with enjoying Twinking.
The Legacy continues…
The community got hunters nerfed in SLs to almost unplayable in competitive PvP/PvE. Now you are going for level 20 twink hunters. So much anti Hunter hate in the world, can’t you all give hunters this one!
I don’t play maxlev so I wouldn’t know, but not so my good sir. I have no issue with 20 mms or bms, and they’re both among the best specs at 20, so losing an absurd surv situation would hardly make them unplayable.
I respect maxlev comes first too, and that anything for 20s is subservient to maxlev balance. I’m no game designer, but off the top of my head, other classes have spells that at low levels have cast times until a talent or level is reached to reduce it to instant. Perhaps something like that could be done so that 20 survs have to stand still once in a while to do max damage.
I felt you misread my first post in honesty, so I went over some of its points again more specifically. Now that you’ve misread my second post, I’m disinclined to engage with you.
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I’m no game designer, but off the top of my head, other classes have spells that at low levels have cast times until a talent or level is reached to reduce it to instant. Perhaps something like that could be done so that 20 survs have to stand still once in a while to do max damage.
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I think I read your post VERY clearly. You believe it is unfair the SV hunters can do max damage without standing still. I simply pointed out 10+ other specs that can do their max damage without standing still also.
Sounds to me that someone can’t handle the level 60 PvP because it is too hard and tried rolling over newbs with free to play accounts and now that you find it too hard there you came here to cry.
Oh, and btw I really don’t care, have fun in your level 20 PvP bracket, just be careful when you cry for nerfs because some people have put lots along time and effort getting their class to what they wanted it to be just to have people cry loud enough to get the nerfed to non-competitiveness.