1/8 LFR and 5/8M Are considered the same with the new dinars/

Something I’ve seen not really talked about in regard to the new dinars is the fact that a 1/8 LFR player will be considered equal to a 5/8M player.

They both will be able to/limited to purchase a maxed-out hero track item with their cartel chip/dinar.

Under this system they are creating, a person with 1 LFR Kill with be considered the exact same as someone 5/8 Mythic killed.

A bit odd to take the stance of “protecting the integrity of mythic raiding” by allowing LFR only players to purchase hero track items maxed out but 5/8M raiders are limited to hero track only items for the last 3 bosses…

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Unfortunately it’s 2025 and everyone gets a trophy now. Except the elite of the elite. They get the goods.

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Seems like you missed all the conversations where folks were implying that you’re not a mythic raider unless you’re ce. So congrats I suppose, the community thinks you’re in the same bin as the rest of us

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Elitism exists in the real world, AND, in Azeroth, it would appear.

I’m sure three pieces will break the player progression.

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Wait, are the items you buy with the dinars maxed out off the vendor, or do you need to spend crests+stones to increase the ilvl?

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While not wrong only a minority will understand this and could of fit into the main thread

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A 1/8 LFR player would only be able to purchase items from a single boss’s loot table. So while I get the point you are trying to make they won’t have access to as many heroic items as an 8/8 LFR player much less ANY access to mythic track items.

You also need 4 boss kills to complete the quest to access your chips in the first place. So a 1/8 LFR player doesn’t have access to anything technically.

This chip system is bad but this whole rant doesn’t make a lot of sense or even show knowledge of how it works.

I mean he is wrong though. A 1/8 LFR player doesn’t even have the kills to complete their chip quest. So they are very much not being treated to the same things as a 5/8M player.

If they could acquire the chips with only one kill they’d have access to exactly one boss’s loot table.

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Who cares? The LFR player is going to get current full mythic raid gear next patch anyway. People are racing to be first up the escalator.

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You should probably not tie your self worth to a bunch of pixels that will be replaced in a few months.

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And how does that affect Mythic raiders in anyway?

Is this more complaining about not getting gear from a boss someone didnt kill, and then calling it elitism?

Instead of looking inward and calling it entitlement?

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This is a very good idea!

What do you all think?

We just remove gear entirely instead of having things like puzzling cartel chips?

I would LOVE IT

No. If you want that then go play a MOBA or something. Power progression is an intrinsic part of RPGs.

MMORPGs require some form of advancement system. What would you replace gear advancement with?

no they won’t. the lfr player can buy a hero track item from that one boss. the mythic player can buy a myth track item from any of five bosses.

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Wow really is just a seasonal game now.

It’s not the same RPG it was in 2004.

We toss all gear away in a few weeks anyways when the season ends.

We don’t have any need for power progression with such short seasons

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RPGs have been around for a lot longer than mythic raiding has. WoW has been around for longer than mythic raiding has.

I know because I’ve played RPGs. Where power progression is always a part of the game and that includes WoW. Which has had gear progression involved for over 20 years now.

How do you not know?

They can’t even do that because you need 4 kills to get the chips lol. 1 LFR kill = access to nothing.

This whole thread displays a lack of knowledge of how the system works. I don’t like the system but it appears that many people don’t understand it enough to even have an opinion.

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Argue all you want about whether they should have taken a similar approach to DF dinars with the items being upgradeable all the way as long as one had the crests, but these ‘OMG someone who didn’t do what I did can get what I got’ posts are getting old.

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The same way if I wake up tomorrow and find out McDonald’s “cooks” get paid $50 an hour. I’m going to my boss and getting my salary bumped way up or I’m going to go sling fries for a fraction of the effort.

People want some sort of perceived fairness in systems they participate in. If the system is perceived to be unfair people either won’t exert additional effort (because why bother) or those that do question why they do it for minimal or no gain.

I’m not extremely in tune with the dinar system coming (I’m a returning player just fiddling with solo player content ATM), but as a broad statement I don’t think it’s a problem if an LFR player can get some mythic raid loot, it just has to be tempered by acquisition rate. It’s one thing if an LFR player can go into the next season with a few mythic pieces, it’s another if you can do LFR and walk out with your mythic set.