Is it possible to push a 15 key with very little to no dps on a healer?
If so, which ones?
Not looking for FOTM, but im a returning player who doesn’t really believe a healer should HAVE to dps for things to work…
This isn’t gonna go well for you my man lol
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Ima be honest man, I expect it to go very badly… I don’t have much faith in the WOW gaming community tbh.
But I’m hopeful there will be some legit answers too.
The answer to your question is all healers are capable of completing 15’s without doing any damage at all IS possible in that range although the damage and utility output of the healer is more important then the actual healing portion to time keys the higher you go, just as it is possible to dps 15’s without interrupting anything and standing in fire. The less you do, the more the other 4 guys have to do to increase your chances of success, and unfortunately it would be very unlikely you get invited back taking that approach. I would recommend sticking to lower keys if you like winning and insist on playing that way.
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Now that’s the kind of response I can take and digest. Thanks Graffit.
It’s not so much about winning as it is I personally don’t think any healer, of any game, should have to dps just to achieve something with their team.
It’s possible, sure.
Is it recommended? No.
Yes.
I do +18’s with anywhere from 9k-24k dps. 9k isn’t ideal, but when you’re pugging with randoms, I might go a more conservative build. To that, pugs just take… a lot of damage in general. Like the 2700 hunter I played with the other day that didn’t know how to pull the elemental mini boss in SOTS and then blamed me when we wiped. But I digress… Good groups take less damage and let me DPS more. If we get to the end of a run and my healing is really high, it probably means my damage will be really low.
Just think of it like this, anytime you’re not healing you should be doing damage. There are plenty of pulls where you will have no healing regardless of how good or bad the group is.
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People regularly do 15s in time with a dps afk at the door paying (gold) to get carried. The 10-20k an average healer probably does is nothing compared to what is missing from the dps literally doing nothing.
That being said if I were to pug a healer and they did 0 damage I would be annoyed if they hadn’t warned me first and would absolutely never run with them again.
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The group as a whole requires some amount of DPS to finish a dungeon in time. It is absolutely possible to clear that hurdle without any contribution from the healer; however, that means the rest of the party has to pick up the slack.
Healers need to get over the idea that DPS is not our job. It’s not our primary job, but healing in M+ is not a full time position. When incoming damage is low, DPSing is more productive than over-healing or just standing around with your thumb up your butt. Knowing when you need to be healing, and when you can squeeze in some DPS is part of being a healer, and something you’ll get more comfortable with (probably even enjoy =) ) as you grow into the role. People aren’t going to be mad if your healer DPS is low, but… Well, let’s just say that you’re not going to make a lot of friends just standing around doing nothing.
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Let’s be honest here. If you’re doing 15’s with a group of people you know, it’s easily doable, if you’re doing 15’s with a pug grp, you better dps as best that you can
If you’re bored spending too much time dpsing as a healer then tell the tank to pull more/faster. If that doesn’t work you can also do a higher key level.
Also for extra bonus points if you are an ultra masochist make everyone wear 80+ corruption.
Yeah completely possible, i did last week a +18 WCM were our healir did barely 2k DPS.
But why not DPS? Is better for you too because think die faster so less to heal.
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True and depends on the group. I have had groups where they are not interrupting correctly and getting bursted aoe damage going off etc. All depends on group, i have been in groups where i can just sit and mostly do damage, and i have been in groups where i literally have no time to do damage because people consistently are taking massive avoidable damage.
If you have a good group doing the mechanics and playing correctly to maximise their damage then no a healer does not need to dps. However good groups eclectic their healer to be making use of every gcd so if you’re not chucking out heals and then throwing out some offensive spells then you’re likely to got get invited to stay with good groups.
I’ve successfully healed keys in the 15-18 range while doing almost no damage outside of sunfire. I’ll swap out of my damage corruptions/essence if I don’t have confidence in the group.
A 15 is possible with 5 tanks, so yes, a healer doesnt need to dps to time a 15.
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isnt it boring to not dps? Healing is a non issue in most keys and its boring just standing there topping off the tank with one maybe two heals
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Yea I once had a healer who did literally 0 damage in a freehold. He spent so much time just standing doing nothing I would have done been so bored
Its an old style of playing WoW, some healers really do prefer to just sit there and heal,
funny cuz in other games you will get kicked if the healer or support roles aren’t helping do damage too
I mean yeah to be fair that was how WoW used to be. Healers did basically no damage cause they were healing almost 100% of the time. It’s still mostly healing in raids but depends on the encounter and the healer class. The rule of thumb often becomes “if the healer has time to dps why not drop a healer?” Obviously that doesn’t apply to tight dps checks like spine of deathwing.
As an 25 man ICC resto druid I remember I had rejuv rolling on 15 people most fights and that was every global I could fit. In MoP 10 man heroics I only healed.
M+ can be a sour topic for healers cause some have much better damage capabilities than others. As a holy priest I’m sick of not having anything worth using for aoe but I’m often too busy flash heal spamming anyways. There is divine star but it’s not enough.