I don't disagree with where you're going with this, but are you going to guarantee that they won't lose money because people switched from current WoW to classic?
What if they had to let people go because of this? Seems that this is the only way to guarantee that doesn't happen.
11/02/2018 06:40 PMPosted by
Silmari
Get a job lmao, even on federal minimum wage it's only 2 hours a month of work. Abloobloobloo it's not free
Once per year, That's a free console system though. In ten years, that's an ounce of gold. Cost is relative, regardless of level of wealth. Some of the more wealthy from the village can be some of the biggest penny-pinchers.
Bottom line is you can't say that it's an inconsequential value because the value of money is subjective, regardless of class.
A valid point could possibly be: "why must I pay the same price as current WoW when it's expected to have no updates?"
Is that not valid?
So, make your choice: do you want your "free" console, or do you want to play WoW Classic for a year? You're also not paying for the box, which typically runs you $40-60. The server hardware maintenance and GM support aren't free, and in any case Blizzard is a for profit company and not a charity.
Is this real?
I'm not paying $180 a year for ANY game,let alone a almost 15 year old game that doesn't get content updates.
This is a bad move by blizzard,and it will definitely effect the amount of people playing classic.
They should have cut the sub price in half at the least.
If I was planning on playing for 5 years,that is $900.
let that sink into your head for a second...$900 to play a 14+ year old game for 5 years.
You could buy 60 games at $15 each for that amount of money,there is no way classic is worth that much.
You have to be some kind of wow addict if you think this is a fair price.
Hey dude maybe you will get sharding, LFD, LFR, transmog, pet battles, etc. in your "Classic" WoW. You can play retail while you retail. BTW $15 games? WTF are you some kinda mobile gamer? Last I checked new games cost $60 each. You buying the retro titles off Steam or GOG? Nothin wrong with that I enjoy that stuff myself. But none of that comes anywhere near playing an MMORPG on dedicated servers staffed by GMs with customer support. The people who complain about subscription fees should stick to FTP MMOs and enjoy the P2W cash shops.
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Yet they'll use that money as "proof" of the popularity of the modern game.
They'll also cave to pressure from all the modern WoW players to change Classic.
This is really just another version of "you think you want it but you really don't, you want to be playing the modern game".
The modern game is fine,lol, 15 year old MMO was not going to keep the numbers it got to no matter what version of WoW it was running.
and why would they have 'cave to pressure'?
No all i heard for years is" we would pay anything to play on legit servers" , then I heard from not a small number of people that 15$ was just fine.
11/02/2018 04:52 PMPosted by
Joynal
If they want to put together a discounted bundle for those playing Classic and modern retail, that's fine.
I don't disagree with this at all, at least just have a Classic only option.
11/02/2018 05:08 PMPosted by
Sylee
i dont mind paying 15$ for a 14yr old game
then what is the problem? You don't have any control of what they do with your money once they have it, so guess what, all those things you listed? You would be doing anyway.
If you're not willing to pay $15/mo for this game, okay. Goodbye. You're part of the problem. Not gonna miss you. Bye. BYE.
11/02/2018 04:40 PMPosted by
Honor
The private server community will look for any excuse to not have to pay for Classic. Ultimately they never intended to/cant afford to pay and will bash the game and us to make themselves feel better.
The retail community will say anything to make it seem like the other players, including inactives, want classic for free when in fact they just want it separate tier and at a reasonable price in line with an aged game without updates. Dare I say a tier without BFA? Because truth be told I can live without bfa or any other expansion at this point. But if blizzard wants to ignore that market segment I guess that's within their right. Although I suspect that pool of players is much larger than they think. Perhaps we should have a post regarding all players who aren't interested in bfa and only classic.
man... people said they'd pay like 15-100 bucks a month for classic wow last year. Look at it this way, you get a free game with the game you want. Sounds fine, even if you don't want to play that free game. This isn't some pserver game - this will HOPEFULLY be a blizz quality product that is faithful to vanilla. It's worth the money if done right.
Many people seem to just not want to fund retail wow because they hate it so much. I don't care for retail either (i'm a retail tourist - sub for one month per expansion to see what's new). However this will help our servers. We will have new people try out the game and possibly like it for the same reasons we do - increasing our community and server populations. Another point is the inevitable server shut down (could be 5 years, 20 years), but our game will be linked with another. Increasing the length of time the servers should stay up.
....... They announced that WoW classic is INCLUDED with your normal WoW sub... You aren't paying extra. I'm confused what all this complaining is about?
I've played the game since 2008, bought all the expansions. Taking into account 2 years off, I've paid about 1600 dollars into this game. For EIGHT YEARS OF ENTERTAINMENT.
I spent more than that on a gun and some ammo about a month ago, and I already burned through all my ammo. I don't see how WoW is a bad value.
11/02/2018 06:58 PMPosted by
Silmari
and in any case Blizzard is a for profit company and not a charity.
Nobody is asking them to be. I'm just saying that if it costs less to make a frozen burrito than a ready-to-eat steak, why does my burrito cost $15?
Also, they replaced the lettuce with lawn clippings. It may taste similar, but it's definitely different enough to be noticeable.
Glad to see private server !@#$ters getting BTFO and forever REKT. Lmao at you expecting to keep getting wow for free lol
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Not necessarily the point is it? Given that all the OP said was "$15 a month is too much for a 14 year old game". Which he is partially correct. But to the typical Blizzard shill this seems like a bargain given you get Battle for Asseroth with it.
Also, yeah. OP has that option to continue playing for free, everyone does. Call people filthy pirates or whatever, doesn't stifle them none. Also nothing was stopping OP from making the argument "It should be $7 a month or ect".
You could buy 60 games at $15 each for that amount of money,there is no way classic is worth that much
I never played classic, but to me it is worth it.
Like I said in a previous discussion, Blizzard isnât stupid enough to cannibalize their own product. This way, itâs a cross-selling opportunity for them.
If they did two separate subs, even with classic at a discount, theyâd lose a lot more subscribers than offering both games at one sub.
And to anyone whoâs objection is that they donât want the money to go to Retail WoW, as others have pointed out, money is very fungible. Blizzard will use the money we give them how they want regardless of what we spend it on. Just show them where you place the value on by sticking exclusively to classic.
And if your objection is that Blizzard isnât creating a wall to keep out the Retail players... to put it politely, there are bigger concerns.
11/02/2018 03:29 PMPosted by
Joynal
I wouldn't have any problem paying $15 a month for Classic.
I refuse to pay $15 a month for the current retail game and since I have to pay for the current retail game in order to play Classic, I won't be playing Classic.
Some real mental gymnastics on this one. You get both games for the $15 a month. Both. Pay the 15 you would have for classic, and you get both games, and the best part is you can just like
not
play
on the BfA version of the game. Wild.
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11/02/2018 07:44 PMPosted by
Traevyn
Some real mental gymnastics on this one. You get both games for the $15 a month. Both.
So how much does the one that will never get updates cost?
... you know... by itself.
The modern game is fine,lol
I'd argue the modern game is not fine considering the number of years they kept telling players that Classic would never happen and yet now they are making it. If it was fine, there would be no need for it. They could continue to fight the private servers through legal means just as they have been all along to retain the rights to the IP.
If it is fine, what happened to change their mind?
11/02/2018 07:44 PMPosted by
Traevyn
11/02/2018 03:29 PMPosted by
Joynal
I wouldn't have any problem paying $15 a month for Classic.
I refuse to pay $15 a month for the current retail game and since I have to pay for the current retail game in order to play Classic, I won't be playing Classic.
Some real mental gymnastics on this one. You get both games for the $15 a month. Both. Pay the 15 you would have for classic, and you get both games, and the best part is you can just like
not
play
on the BfA version of the game. Wild.
No mental gymnastics involved at all. I dislike what they've done to modern WoW so I refuse to pay for it. I'm not going to give financial support to a bad product and let shareholders think the development team is doing a great job that should be encouraged to continue.
They need to separate Classic from modern so shareholder will get a clear picture of what players are truly spending their money on.
No offence but you must be poor if 15$ is too much for both bfa and classic wow! Lol
been happily playing ow for free for awhile now.
If you're not willing to pay $15/mo for this game, okay. Goodbye. You're part of the problem. Not gonna miss you. Bye. BYE.
Part of what problem?
11/02/2018 07:25 PMPosted by
Gattz
The retail community will say anything to make it seem like the other players, including inactives, want classic for free when in fact they just want it separate tier and at a reasonable price
The best part is the retailers who suggest that we want it "free" when they themselves will literally be getting it at no additional cost. Literally FREE.
11/02/2018 07:25 PMPosted by
Gattz
Perhaps we should have a post regarding all players who aren't interested in bfa and only classic.
If you could only play in one of the old wow versions or current retail, which would you choose?
41.71 % (73 votes)Vanilla
29.14 % (51 votes)The Burning Crusade
22.86 % (40 votes)Wrath of the Lich King
6.29 % (11 votes)Battle for Azeroth
175 total votes.https://strawpoll.com/66c89g51
11/02/2018 08:02 PMPosted by
Joynal
The modern game is fine,lol
I'd argue the modern game is not fine considering the number of years they kept telling players that Classic would never happen and yet now they are. If it was fine, there would be no need for it. They could continue to fight the private servers through legal means just as they have been all along to retain the rights to the IP.
If it is fine, what happened to change their mind?
Two separate things there, Classic is happening because of the demand for it, not anything to do with BfA.