Unless you want play on max graphical settings, up the resolution that you play on, or utilize raytracing, you don’t need to upgrade your CPU or GPU for WoW.
It depends on what you want to do in your games.
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Oh absolutely. I wanted butter with max settings. The CPU was a massive bottle neck to the GPU so I upgraded, and it was a massive CPU upgrade for wow.
Ah, alrighty. I definitely play other things, so I was kind of curious for general gaming usage. Skyrim modded to the gills, shooters, games with big ol’ open worlds, etc. Also run a fair bit of model-making software for 3D printing, but I’m not sure what particular bits of hardware influence the performance on things like that.
one thing is not like the other in this set up. I’ll let you guess.
That case better have like 20 LED strips in it.
A 13600k is a massive CPU upgrade for that CPU. I can’t say if you need it though. I don’t know enough about how Skirm runs to talk about it without googling it. Big open worlds is usualy hard on a CPU but every game is different. I also dont know enough about model making software but I assume you want a decent cpu and gpu.
OP GD is not the spot for this post. Blizzard will probably move it to the Hardware section if you dont. There is a dedicated section for shop talk. Just FYI
Feel free to join us over there anytime
13th Gen and Ryzen 7000 series is a pretty big upgrade for any CPU except the 5800x3D which was just a gold mine of a CPU for gamers
100% True. Its such a CPU heavy game. Im on the 7950x with a RTX 4090 and my buddy is on the 13700k and a RTX 4070ti. We get almost the same FPS. Proving CPU > GPU when it comes to wow
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Absolutely. I thought this was the place for it. I can move it? I seriously considered the 5800X3D but overall, this direction will be better long term probably.
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Yes when you edit your title its a drop down menu under the title 
You are 100% right. Especially since intel doesnt have much of a limit on Ram speed. 13th Gen will age like fine if you change over to DDR5 
Yeah looks like a type o. He probably should have gone with DDR5. He still can at some point. Its a night and day difference in wow. WoW drinks up CPU cache and Ram Speed like water in the desert
This is also why the x3D CPUs do so well with wow
Dang I put down its DDR4 lol. The ram is 64gb, 6400 , 32 cas ram DDR5
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I kind of assumed that the speed you put down was some sort of typo but now it makes sense. I guess I should have assumed you meant ddr5 instead
Since you were already on ddr5 you ought to do okay
I’ve been messing around with overclocking this new CPU. There is some setting in the MSI Z790 pro-wifi mobo that stops the cpu from downclocking when idle this happens as soon as I put in a multiplier. As far as I can tell it should still scale down at idle with my settings in both Windows and the Mobo itself. Any ideas?
it’s a complex question which many people can get wrong because they 1) look at it from their perspective only and/or 2) look at benchmarks only and not the end user. So your 8700k can be good, bad, or good enough; all at the same time or a mix of of them.
So the basic answer to “what makes CPUs good for gaming?” is performance. You can look at any review where the reviewer runs the CPU through multiple suite of games using different game engines. Web sites like Tom’s or techpowerup will then rank the CPUs in performance based on their individual test suite. How that performance is gained varies by design and series making it difficult to compare specs unless the specific CPUs are from the same series and designer. So if anyone states you need at least X amount of cores, or cache, or speed than they really don’t know what they are talking about. CPUs are a whole unit and not a combination of parts that you swap out (like your PC parts) so what you really need is X amount of performance which is a whole CPU. That does not mean things like IPC, cache, or cores are not important, they are very important, but they all contribute to performance.
The other parts about performance is the individual and the application (how demanding is it and how does it use the CPU). If all you do is play hearstone than the 8700k is good. For games like WoW it’s good enough depending on other factors. For the latest AAA console ports the 8700k will start to show its age (although you can OC for some extra performance). So if you play all those games the CPU can be good, OK, and bad. You also need to factor in your GPU, resolution, and game settings. Using the RTX 4090, the 8700 will significantly hold it back. Using something like the RX 6600 you would see smaller impact of upgrading your CPU depending on the game. Higher resolution like 4k will also limit CPU impact while lower resolution will stress the CPU out more in order to keep up with the higher FPS the GPU will run at. Game settings will have similar impact.
for their gaming suite at 1080p using the RTX3080 GPU, TPU stated an increase of 35% in performance
for their application suite, the 13600k was able to more than double the performance of a stock 8700k
Thanks for the info! Helps put things into perspective.
I was originally curious about it because I was having emulation woes. Tried emulating Xenoblade 3, and for the first time I actually couldn’t get it to run properly. The associated forums pretty much all went “yeah dude, this thing’s a CPU hog and yours is too old for it”. I was kind of thinking about making a new build since my current one is so old now, so I’ll keep everything you said in mind as I look at parts.
For the most part the 10600k had good performance. But it was always bottlenecking the GPU. The biggest improvment and its what I was going for are places like raid, world bosses and busy cities but in particular Valdrakken.
Valdrakken before 45 ish fps. Now 80ish.
Before massive world bosses with full raid 30 to high 30s. Now 70ish
Up to 25 man raids before was acceptable above 60 most of the time with some dips and some low 1% lows. Now smooth at all times pretty much.
no RGB??? its probed that RGB increase your FPS for gaming!
Thats rich coming from a lock who’s Tmog is covered in RBG. 
Nice green glow buddy 
They are practicing what they preach. I upgraded the case fans with RGB fans that change color based on temp of the CPU. Over 9000 times more FPS now.
Waiting for the holidays to see if there are any great specials on a computer.
A company like Amazon often buys a massive bulk of a single gaming computer and puts it on sale at a reasonable price around that time. And I honestly don’t care if it’s AMD or INTEL. The price is what matters.