Have to reroll 11s until i get an easy key and +2 it so i can do 13s. 12s are full of affix carried players that wipe on first pull and leave xd
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What rewards do you get for +12?
A +12 is equivalent to a +25 key? I didn’t do anything above 21+ since M+ was added so it doesn’t matter.
Go ahead and compete with people who play WoW at an abnormal level, no one cares.
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Are +13s going to be better?
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You’re in level 12 dungeons, not +12 keys.
The same as a +10…unless you are competing for the top .1% title
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M+ will never have good or infinitely scaling loot until they make raids scale. Period, bottom line, end of discussion.
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I think m+ this time around is just not great in general
so… to heck with pushing. I’m doing 10s and calling it good enough.
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You couldve just said “keys are miserable”
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I feel this season is definitely not as fun. But, I can’t quite put a finger on exactly why I am not enjoying it.
Maybe it’s the affixes? Maybe the dungeons? Maybe the new key levels? Maybe the meta comp? Or maybe it is the combination of everything? I am not sure.
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I’m not concerned with the meta comp but “all of the above” explains why M+ is bad this season to me.
It’s a season to get the KSM mount and call it good entirely after that for me.
At least they got most of the bad TWW dungeons out of the way in S1 so hopefully S2 will be a reprieve to look forward to.
Yes, it is.
oh ok.
/10 chars
Not sure if S2 dungeons will be much better. It will depend on tuning. But, I think Darkflame Cleft won’t be fun for M+ regardless.
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I think any rotation that doesn’t include dawnbreaker will be an improvement.
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I hated Dawnbreaker at the beginning of expansion, but I have to admit it somewhat grew on me (or maybe I just got used to it). At least, I appreciate that it is a quick run when I want to farm vault or crests.
We haven’t seen the non-TWW dungeons in the rotation. We’ll probably get King’s Rest, Theater of Pain, Arcway, and they’ll modify Skyreach for good measure. 
Plus Dawnbreaker is much better than cart portion of Darkflame will ever be.
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Dark flame Cleft is going to be ROUGH.
Overall I don’t think there are any bad TWW dungeons this season.
Even though flying inside the ship is annoying, I think Dawnbreaker is the easiest key of the season
I guess it could always be worse and be Tol’Dogar level of buggy.
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I just don’t think easy = enjoyable by default. Dawnbreaker may be the easiest key but it’s the least enjoyable dungeon I’ve ever seen. It’s up there with Oculus bad. I want it over with even faster than it is.
Throw in city of echoes “spy hunt” and the last boss in threads and I’m personally looking forward to S2’s rotation. I don’t think it can be worse when we add the old dungeons this season to the equation.
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I don’t particularly hate any 10s this season. I still need to run a city of threads 10. Haven’t gotten one. Will happen eventually but the 8s were pretty rough