Honestly, it’s going to be wild if Blizzard actually does head down this path they’ve created by having Sylvanas point out that the Shadowlands might just be Titan machinations upon the state of Death.
I’m reminded of this quote:
"The good news is Hell is just the product of a morbid human imagination. The bad news is whatever humans can imagine they can usually create.”
—from Severance
So very curious that the Maw even exists as a fate, when even the denizens of the Shadowlands ethically question its purpose as much as the mortals do. I bet they’ll say the Titans believed that mortals deserve eternal punishment if they transgress against their “rules”.
Sylvanas is one of metzens favourites and likely wasen’t very happy with the direction they took her. and given that this is the sassy sylvanas forsaken fans know and like its very likely he is taking her back in a direction that he wants.
That would be the most generous interpretation. But…I don’t think it works. In a single sentence she links her actions with the others meeting her with “fangs bared.” That ties the choices she made to the reason people hate her. If Blizzard intends it like you are suggesting, they need a rewrite VERY badly.
Cool, she is still evil. That is not the only problem here. The obvious one is her still being without remorse takes away some of the development in SL. But, it is not the only one. Think through what she is saying.
She fell for the Jailor’s lies. And even if she has no remorse for the atrocities, her actions still cost her terribly. I would think even a remorseless and heartless person would regret playing the puppet to someone else. And her actions took the few things she cared about and damned her to a long and lonely prison sentence. Seems like a cause for regret by even a remorseless monster.
Perhaps she’s more frustrated now and less remorseful, because as she points out to her nephew, the Shadowlands might just be a facade over the actual afterlife. The entire machine of death that she’s performing this long-term penance for isn’t even “fixed” now that the Jailer is gone.
It’s not supposed to exist at all.
She’s doing the job so that she can make it up to the Night Elves, but when she’s done she’s probably going to show Anduin or Alleria or someone important evidence that the Titans built the Shadowlands so they could tap mortal souls as another form of power, probably as some sort of cliffhanger for The Last Titan.
Everyone’s requesting their own special snowflake interactions. Just depends how much catering Blizzard is willing to do, or if it will all go live a la cart as is.
Sadly when has this stopped Blizzard from retconning stuff in the past? I mean just look at the “chronological” timeline of BFA that was presented in Chronicles vol 4. Completely goes against what is established in the freaking game.
That would still be a reversal of her development in SL where she was horrified that she basically ‘did an Arthas.’ I get some people want evil Sylvanas back. And that means they are happy with the reversal, but it is still a reversal. It doesn’t matter if she is unhappy with the Shadowlands, that doesn’t change the horrendous actions she carried out. So, not regretting the actions she was horrified about at the end of Shadowlands is a reversal.
While I get some people are fine with that reversal if it brings back evil Sylvanas, I don’t understand why they are okay with Sylvanas being okay with being stupid and happy to be used as a puppet. She was tricked and danced for The Jailor like a puppet on strings. She cost herself basically everything. Even if we ignore the conscience part, to not regret those choices paints her as an idiot.
You’re right nothing is off the table, and I’ve seen crazier things happen in WoW.
And to be fair I don’t think she ever mentions she feels regret, so it wouldn’t be a retcon if she’s talking about the choices she made while only having part of her soul.
Sorry, Vereesais no where near as important as Admiral Killhorde, let alone Sylvanas.
Vereesa can and should die.
Sylvanas is one of the most popular characters in the entire setting, and cannot die.
Alliance Posters are used to Horde Characters dying after they so much as give the Alliance a dirty look.
Meanwhile, Horde Players quest with Jaina and Vareesa like the Purge never happened.
In BfA, Horde Players literally team up with the initiator of an ethnic pogrom against one of her victims (Jaina vs Hathorel).
I have been eagerly waiting for when Sylvanas would make her return, just so Alliance Posters could enjoy what Horde Players have been going through for near decades.
I find it honestly fitting that the lore book coverage of BFA treats it with an even less coherent retcon given the expansion had so many of them internally (and table missions retconed a lot of cata questing to boot)
Your comparison of requesting Sylvanas’s death and removal from the game/story (per Elena’s first post) being compared to Nezmith expecting the literal who Vereesa to answer for crimes is ridiculous.
Vereesa isn’t Sylvanas.
She doesn’t get the protections that Blizzard affords Sylvanas.
She isn’t untouchable like Sylvanas.
So comparing her to Sylvanas is dumb.