With the total revamp of the pack leader hero talent tree to be more thematic, our replacement defensive node gave players a 10% Damage Reduction every 90 seconds for 6 seconds in place of a HoT attached to the Survival of the Fittest defensive? The lack of a defensive healing node on Pack leader makes the hero talent increasingly more reliant on healer support than hunters already were. in an environment where in high mythic plus composition is dependent on your ability to survive the damage… this iteration of shell cover is not the answer. a defensive node where you always gain some defensive or healing would be more valuable than a 10% damage reduction every 90 seconds below 60% health.
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either make it a choice node with den recovery or buff it is what i’d do
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i dont understand how they thought this was a good change.
thats the sort of decision that brings one’s job qualifications into question.
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Seriously. In what universe is Shell Cover even REMOTELY comparable to Den Recovery?
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Kind of in the same opinion as above, losing den recovery hurts EVERYWHERE. Shell Cover is just… even for the six seconds its up its BAD. Survival of the fittest is on a similar cooldown, has two charges, and is at 30% damage reduction, has a longer duration and its STILL not enough in many cases without den recovery to back it up. What is shell cover supposed to do when you can’t even control it?
Not to mention, Hunters have notoriously bad sustain. So much so that in pve we are kinda forced to take ferocity pets for the leech to help deal with chip damage.
In PVP?! Just normal battlegrounds? You just explode now on contact with the enemy, survival is like playing Dead by Daylight and every other player is the killer. You CAN win, but you have to play keep away 90% of the time and hope no one throws a dot your way.
Den Recovery helped with that alot, even allowed you to dive in some rare cases. Or bought you just enough time for the healer to notice your in trouble.
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I love the rework it was definitely needed Pack Leader sucked bad before but the one thing it did have was Den Recovery so they need to bring that back or buff the turtle to around that.
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It’s cute you thought they were qualified to begin with 
Now that PL is the spec to go, I feel extra spoiled by Smoke Screen.
tenacity is the pick for raid (and m+ if you have any other spec with you that can lust) so you don’t get instagibbed on higher keys; you should have more than enough leech from your enchants to where you should have the amount provided by what a ferocity pet would or more
I think the reason I love Smoke Screen better is that I have more control over defensive cds. I can choose when I can use it. Leech and small turtle is really just situational and automatic. Because of that, I place Smoke Screen higher. It’s rarely about survival but more so about control and making an alrdy strong defensive better.
I said this in early PTR and Blizzard still kept this dog water Shell Cover defensive. 
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probably some DEI hire i honestly dont have another excuse for something this bad
To think i pay a sub and they can’t even do basic tasks
Not the first time I see a hero talent get a choice node with one very obvious choice.
Dont know why we get choice nodes where one fundamentally changes an ability for fantasy while the other is literally a 5% damage buff.
Shell cover is ridiculous -_-
Bring back Den recovery!!!
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