The patch doesn’t portray him as evil from the start, it shows us what he was like as the corruption was taking hold but before the grand betrayal. It shows us his descent.
The Old Gods didn’t flip him overnight. The whispers took a long, long time to sway him.
My point is that reason and logic only matter when applied to the horde.
From a logistical standpoint, there’s a lot of things that don’t really make a whole lot of sense alliance side, but I think the issue with team blue is that we have players who seemingly eat it all up and don’t really take the time to question anything or why a character is acting the way they are.
I believe that he was just very… efficient, I guess you could say. For example, he tried to warn everyone the Primal Incarnates and their followers were going to turn on them, but Alexstrasza wanted to try to talk their way out of the issue. So, he took the mindset of “It’s my job to protect the world and I will even if I have to do some bad things to achieve my goal.” It feels like as corruption took hold he slowly began lowering his bar of what was acceptable, so long as the ends justify the means.
We have really only seen him from the angle of Earthwarder, also. Nothing has touched on Neltharion the person. Which, is a shame, really.
I’d agree with that if the pre-expansion animations didn’t establish that the first time he gave in to the Old Gods was when fighting Razsageth. But the stuff like his horrible treatment of his flight in those tablets Zerde linked, or what Emberthal described in the cave in the Forbidden Reach questline, happened before that.
That cave I guess is pretty damning. But on the other hand I don’t mind that a dragon might have a draconian approach to problems. We assume that behind that visage they present there is a psyche that thinks and acts and is motivated in the same way a human might be. But they are not humans but an alien species. If that was something they were going for it could be forgiven, but then I doubt thats the case.
The items show cased are a shovel sword and a pickaxe axe. I’m unsure if there’s more or just these two.
We shall have the main entrance with the Cascades Canyon at the border of Ohn’ahran Plains and Thaldraszus, with another north of Teerakai within the plains, and the last being at Three-Falls Lookout in the Azure Span. Now considering that the rock formation blocking that cave entrance is now gone, I kind of wonder if we have a new World Quest defending the base from attackers from the Zaralek Caverns.
To paraphrse a quote from another RP venue. “That dragon may be technically good because of the golden color of his scales, but remember that it’s good as the Dragon sees it. It doesn’t always match up with the way we see it.”
No matter what visage they may wear, Dragons when you get down to it are not humanoid. They process through a vastly different set of perceptual filters including moral ones.
Yet Ebyssian is childishly moralizing at Emberthal in 10.0.7 leading to Sarkareth’s escape and eventual boss-status.
What’s really happening is that Blizzard writers are mentally like 9 or 10 years old. The bad guy has to have always been bad, otherwise he wouldn’t be a bad guy, that’s how mafia works.
I hope Fyrakk doesn’t just roll over and die. He looked like he was the most brutal of the three incarnates.
Warcraft dragons have never been written with alien mindsets. If anything DF has made them more humanlike than ever. To a point I’d really rather Blizz steer them back in the opposite direction a bit, honestly.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Back_to_the_Future
Knowing Presence whispers: With many eyes, they will see again. They will drink, and be uplifted.
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Uu'nat?so=search#Quotes
N’Zoth whispers: She is not the last, but the first. Drown her and you will see.
Both of these Quotes from N’Zoth(the first one I have shown coming from Dragon Isles) when put together imply that Vyranoth was the first to be corrupted and will bathe in the Wellspring of the Halls of Infusion corrupting it to the side of the Void and that will corrupt the Dragons creating Murozond in multiple converging Timelines.
Good to know. It would be a waste treating her like Raz.
I would’ve preferred if we had found some early attempts of Neltharion trying to cope with the pain he was suffering from being the Aspect of Earth. And as each attempt failed he became more and more desperate. Really play into how he willingly joined the Old Gods because he viewed his aspect powers as a curse. Which I feel Blizzard is moving more and more away from. I can just imagine N’zoth says, “told you so” over and over again. That would drive anyone insane.
Hell, one of these attemps can be him trying to control it with help from Therazane, as according to Kor the unmoveable, the Earth Warder had visited Deepholm many times prior to his stay following Day of the Dragon.
Did I miss something? Where are we facing her?
Didn’t Blizzard say in an interview that would blue dragonflight content in the patch? Perhaps fighting her is tied to that.
I do not think so actually. I suspect they might have a small introductory arc for the Green Flight’s stuff at the end of the campaign, which leads to the datamined cinematic as a teaser for 10.2—They can tussle with Vyranoth and she can say something ominous and fly off.
The Blue stuff I suspect won’t have a direct enemy. It is about the Flight itself overcoming its past and disbanding.