None. Zero. Zip. Nada. Fekokteh. Schlemiel. Schlimazel. Hasenpfeffer Incorporated!
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It’s the first iteration of what’s going to be on the PTR for probably at least two months. Chill.
In most places, holy paladin is perfectly fine anyway, so I wouldn’t really expect any substantial buffs outside of damage / PvP focused things.
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Judgement needs to generate HoPo we now have 2 interactions that require pooling 5 HoPo. A terribly design maintenance buff “of dusk and dawn” in high keys this is almost a wasted capstone but its better than anything else we have and then we have a major healing CD that requires 5 HoPo only now useful when divine toll is up or you can predict damage wasting 5 gcd’s. Hpal is the only healer that has to juggle 2 resources to do any meaningful healing.
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Give me the keys to the paladin dev shed and I will fix holy for both camps.
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The entire class needs an over haul.
There is 0 reason why all 3 class spec tree’s share talents when there is a class tree.
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I take your point about chilling about the about amount of time between now and the 10.0.7 patch.
I think the comment about holy being fine is a little more complex . Sure Holy is probably fine from a numbers point of view but there’s a lot of QoL and changes a lot of people are hoping for to the class and holy trees.
Something in line with the new talents and moving around that other specs like Resto Druid, Resto & Ele shaman got in this first set of changes already announced would make a world of difference to those trees.
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Judgement generating HoPo would really help. Honestly holy right now plays like a really dumpy mw which is saying something… Lol
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I’m kinda hoping the instant cast flash of light change which wound up in the possible ret data mining is available to holy.
That would solve the whole infusion issue, but I fear I may be wrong
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They changed holy prism tooltip from yards to yds, hpal is in good hands
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Imagine fire mages ignoring insta cast pyroblast procs.
That’s how infusion procs feel for Hpal right now in a melee build.
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I think IoL needs to be the first talent in the holy tree, and it’s a choice talent which gives the pre-SL IoL to caster and something else for melee players (CS heals? idk)
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Did you miss this change to Holy:
“When you or allies within your Aura are critically struck, gain Reckoning. Gain 1 additional stack if you are the victim.
At 100 stacks of Reckoning, your next Judgment deals 25% increased damage, will critically strike, and activates Avenging Wrath for 6 sec.”
Huge nerf for PvP.
that’s a 10.0.5 change not 10.0.7. 10.0.7 is just changing the tooltip for the nerf that’s already active
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Read again.
The next judgment after 100 stacks is now 25% increased damage instead of 200%.
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this is already active
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That’s not what my tooltip says on live…
the tooltip has been bugged for a long time
did you play hpal before 10.0.5? judgment used to do 75k+ aura of reck proc
it currently hits for 30k
PALADIN
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Aura of Reckoning max aura stacks raised to 100 (was 50). The Reckoning effect now activates at 100 stacks.
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Holy
- Reckoning (PvP talent) now increases the damage of your next Judgment by 25% (was 100%). The tooltip for Aura of Reckoning will be updated to reflect this in a future patch.
https://www.wowhead.com/news/updated-dragonflight-10-0-5-patch-notes-331134
10.0.5
november 15 2022 we were also supposed to see this nerf to aura of reckoning
PALADIN
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Holy
- Aura of Reckoning now increases the damage of Judgment by 100% (was 200%).
but i genuinely don’t know if that nerf ever went through since i didn’t notice judgment damage changes
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Huh, good stuff. Thanks, I obviously didn’t pay attention to that line.
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Honestly would love to see Tyr’s Deliverance more accessible in the tree instead of a near capstone. I would love to see Beacon of Lightbringer come back. Compared to legion we have the same amount of buttons to click but they do less. Maybe I just need to try more unorthodox talent picks.
Edit: alright I’ll say it - light of dawn feels bad. Many people in m+ pugs don’t want to stack to make it easier for pally heals and often times mechanics deem that a mistake to begin with. It makes one of the only group heals feel extremely circumstantial. And with Unending Light as a talent it rewards its use.
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I still contend that simply making Holy Light cast faster would fix a lot of problems for the caster build. We don’t need an entire spec redesign or anything. These are small changes we need.
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