100% NOT ok with delay of launch

I’m mixed about a delay. Firstly, I’m not okay with shadowlands delaying because I want it over as soon as possible, or started so we can get patches that fix the issues they’ve created with it that they otherwise won’t until the forum explodes or people mass unsub.

If prepatch isn’t this Tuesday I just won’t be playing it. Ive unsubbed, it expires Thursday or so and I definitely won’t resub for a prepatch of an expansion I don’t even think I’m going to like. But I understand delaying it because it’s beyond broken on PTR. I just won’t be playing it

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I can’t stop laughing at this part

games get delayed all the time part of life

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That’s what beta testing is for. Literally can be done right now if they wanted to.

Actually, there’s a lot of problems that’ll never come up until everyone has it, or problems that might only exist because of limited testing.

A huge example of this is Communities.

It’s Blizzard, though. They’re stubborn beyond belief.

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must be nice for those entitled to nice lives and not have to worry about not making it to see launch

As I said in another thread.

I’m tempted to say let them delay, especially with the recent bugs during the Khadgar realm connection, now imagine them still trying to solve issues like that during a pre-patch and/or expansion launch. Would you be ok with half of your characters being unplayable during the pre-patch or launch week of the expansion. Sure this may not be bugs in beta, but if these bugs combine with the ones in beta rear their heads, how many people do you think will leave.

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I think you’re confusing major patches with hotfixes bud. Hotfixes can be deployed within hours. What makes you so convinced it would take months when the more players there are reporting numbers, the more data they have to come to a conclusion?

I think you haven’t played beta bud. It’s not bugs people are referring to.

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They should have stopped realm connections weeks ago to prep for launch, pretty sure the dadgar fiasco may have led to the prepatch not launching this week.

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Actually I have and the fact that you think hotfixing only applies to bugs shows how little experience with the MMO genre that you have.

I think they’ve hotfix patched almost every type of content, bug, and tuning in at this point.

As long as it doesn’t REQUIRE a client download, it can be hotfixed.

ok

I don’t care what you think though

They never announced the patch release date…

I agree, but they didn’t, so if they insist on continuing to try them then either delay or call it quits now, and resume, hopefully a few weeks after the expansion hits, but that leads to another whole group of angry customers about how they aren’t being connected like everyone else that was before.

Exactly. And while I agree the covenants/legendary items are very unbalanced right now, all of those items can be hotfixed for tuning.

Think this is the last one they are doing, and are probably only doing it because they already started.

If anyone tried they would surely lose, I don’t have the time to read through the stuff right this second but I’m sure the pre-orders have “release date subject to change” in there somewhere.

Worst that would happen is bad pr and having to issue refunds if requested in certain countries (though not the US)

The only case where a company could be held legally responsible in these situations is if they refused refunds for pre-orders.

People forget that the law exists for the purpose of protecting both consumers and businesses in reasonable ways. If a company refuses you a refund for a product that didn’t deliver on their promise, then that would be unreasonable. But moving a target release date of a product is not unreasonable if they need additional time.